I feel like Shining is Town the more he speaks. I will probably be voting Thoth at the EoD
I feel like Shining is Town the more he speaks. I will probably be voting Thoth at the EoD
I feel like Thoth thinks Shining knows more about the setup than he should which is why he asking Shining that bit about Dershowitz/Epstein. It ties in with him asking Kohai about the Vanillaiser bait
Originally Posted by Shining on 08/10/2026 at 7:31 (post #302)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/7/2026 at 11:12 PM (post #292)
Originally Posted by Shining on 10/7/2026 at 10:09 PM (post #291)
Calling it now, mafia team is something like Dershowitz/Epstein and Maxwell.
Not Epstein/Dershowitz?
That too, but whatever. Also why are you locktown again?
I’m probably slightly insane but I feel like this is a Towny thing to say, seems too on the nose for scum unless both Thoth and Shining are scum
I feel like Thoth is rolefishing, or character fishing or whatever. Has he even claimed a role or character yet?
@Thoth how about you claim bud?
Originally Posted by Thoth on 08/10/2026 at 3:46 (post #266)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/6/2026 at 7:38 PM (post #129)
Budget two days for each DP? With one day for DP4 if needed.
agree
Feel like this is scummy for Thoth. Scum would say they agree to something taht fucks them over in order to seen pro Town and Thoth’s thing here kinda sticks out.
Originally Posted by Shining on 08/10/2026 at 11:06 (post #327)
You guys always go this route with me and yet you always end up eating shit when I flip town. Whats this about inactive scum? Isn't this my town play? I get its frustrating, but theres nothing to scum read me on lol. Anyway, I reckon you will be disappointed if you force me to character/full claim.
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/8/2026 at 4:56 AM (post #322)
If I’m the Cop my NP0 peek is Noah
What does peek mean in this context?
Why don’t you character claim then
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 08/10/2026 at 10:54 (post #320)
VTL Shining, down to switch to thoth or the new guy if people are inclined, and if shining wants to participate I can reconsider. But we are wasting limited time in the day phase and shining hasn't done anything other than a few nothing posts, this is not something we can deal with. If this player is scum he is getting a free pass. It's not purely policy at this point, nothing hurts worse than getting fucked by an inactive mafia team. Drafterman once said "An Active town will eat itself in the face of an inactive mafia". That qoute stuck with me, and he had a very good point.
Sure this works for me
VTL Shining
Reason I prefer Thoth is that we have two inactives yet people mostly talked about only one of them. I realise Shining’s inactivity is worse than Thoth, but it could still indicate Thoth is scum and that’s why he’s been given a free(r) pass
If I’m the Cop my NP0 peek is Noah
I don’t think I am voting Helz but if I am that’s a mistake on my end, I thought I unvoted
VTL: Thoth
Originally Posted by Shining on 08/10/2026 at 7:31 (post #302)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/7/2026 at 11:12 PM (post #292)
Originally Posted by Shining on 10/7/2026 at 10:09 PM (post #291)
Calling it now, mafia team is something like Dershowitz/Epstein and Maxwell.
Not Epstein/Dershowitz?
That too, but whatever. Also why are you locktown again?
This post will be interesting regardless of Shining’s alignment lol.
Seeing as I don’t really have any scum reads at this stage.
Pet theory is that scum likes to mimic the thread and go with the flow, so there’s a good chance they talked about policy lynching Shining today. Maybe one or two scum may be among those who said it.
Not a particularly strong read, but did anyone notice how people were up for lynching Shining but Thoth’s inactivity was mostly ignored save for I think Whiteflame and Kohai saying he was AFK?
Potential Thoth scum
I don’t really understand the point everyone seems to be making against Helz o.O, but I guess I’ll let people cook and see where it leads.
I do kinda get the point about the N0 peek, but it IS pretty standard Mafia play on other sites, so it’s not really as damning as it looks.
Thoth looks okayish to me? Early vibes but he seems to be doing his usual thing. I could easily be wrong though
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 07/10/2026 at 15:45 (post #205)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/7/2026 at 2:53 AM (post #188)
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 06/10/2026 at 19:53 (post #6)
I'm David Copperfield, ig I vanished the statue of liberty and my property taxes
Question is, since Noah is pretty new would he just instantly claim like this as scum? Does Mafia have a night 0 chat or something like that? It looks kinda towny for a person to claim so fast
It wouldn't be terribly unusual for mods to open up a Discord channel and invite scum in a day in advance of the start of the game, so it is entirely possible that scum have had some prep time, though I'm not assuming as much at this point. It's more a basis for me not to just straight townread claims that look good on their face.
Fair. I guess that read is a bit weaker than I’d thought. I still do thinj it’s a little strange for newbie scum to claim this fast
Originally Posted by Thoth on 08/10/2026 at 3:24 (post #248)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/6/2026 at 3:38 PM (post #51)
Also I had the random thought that we should immediately mass claim roles and shit because scum won’t have the time to make coherent claims, but then I realised it’s a really shitty strategy of winning the game so I’d rather we didn’t do that. Also there’s no guarantee it’ll work
Could work or might not depending on when people are available, especially Savant.
Why do you think scum could not concoct claims fast?
If they get bombarded with mass claims at the start of the game they will panic and won’t have time to think things through. Either they claim fast and their claim ends up (likely) being nonsense, or they take ages to claim. Both of which stick out.
For instance, I don’t really know enough about… Epstein shit to be able to make a fake claim.
I am obviously down for policy lynchint Shining if anyone asks.
I’m temporarily available, just finished my shift, smoking a few before I cycle home. Looks like I didn’t miss much?
Helz, you can ignore what I said because I honestly don’t have the motivation to make up some shit and push it through for a reaction.
I still think Mag1c is slightly towny
I will probably be abandoning the following part of the Noah read tomorrow but: he comes across as newb town, doesn’t feel super scummy.
no reads on anyone else
I will be unavailable for at least 7 hours, except perhaps for the occasional pop-in to read and maybe make one or two short posts, I would prefer it if we didn’t hammer while I’m gone.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 07/10/2026 at 9:47 (post #196)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/7/2026 at 1:22 AM (post #194)
Non-commital’s not really the right word but I don’t know how to put it. Subtly manipulative/trying to look towny can be added there too
Yeah non committal doesn't really make sense for kohai explaining RVS phase to a noobie. I guess I am just trying to figure out what it was that he was manipulating there, I don't see it lol. Seem's like an odd post to pick to sus someone which pings me that you are potentially manufacturing reads.
Nah I’m not manufacturing reads. Sometimes I get wild reads from nothing. It’s just hard to explain
Non-commital’s not really the right word but I don’t know how to put it. Subtly manipulative/trying to look towny can be added there too
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 07/10/2026 at 9:08 (post #192)
Ok but that's the part I said I wasn't really on you for. Twice now I've asked about the Kohai vote and you haven't touched it. What was it about that post? Even "it felt like X" is better than nothing.
Also why tell us your role is weird? Nobody asked, and it just tells scum there's something interesting about you.
WELLLLLL it felt like he was being noncommittal if I had to put a finger on the feeling that post gave me
Also, I said it’s weird but I didn’t say whether it’s useful or not.
Whiteflame seems to be doing the thing where he just summarises the game? It does feel somewhat better than in my previous games with him though. I can’t say I have much of a read on him at this stage.
Part of me wants to vote Helz and say he is trying to gatekeep the game. Not that he doesn’t do this as Town as well but would be interesting to see where this leads
VTL: Helz
My reasoning being that people would say scum would know who’s in the game or who isn’t which is why ppl would townread this, but I think it’s entirely possible for scum to make this mistake. Anyway I don’t scum read or town read Mag1c at this point, my point is just that derp is not alignment indicative.
If I really had to hazard a guess, I would say slight town lean on Mag1c because
1) he seems slightly theatrical like in the previous game and he was town there, and I incorrectly scumread him for it
2) he seems to be dropping slightly wild/out of the blue takes, kinda disjointed which is Townish
So yeah slight Town lean on Mag1c I guess
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 07/10/2026 at 8:52 (post #186)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/7/2026 at 12:43 AM (post #179)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 07/10/2026 at 4:15 (post #163)
I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.
I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.
I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.
Before anyone says otherwise: I don’t think this is alignment indicative. Scum can make a mistake like this too
Also kinda interesting you jumped in to cover Mag1c's Pie thing before anyone even pushed on it. Not saying it's scummy by itself, but Mag1c was tempted to townread you earlier too. Gonna keep an eye on that.
I had thought people would call Mag1c town for this, not scummy so I’m not really covering for him unless I misunderstood what you’re saying
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 06/10/2026 at 19:53 (post #6)
I'm David Copperfield, ig I vanished the statue of liberty and my property taxes
Question is, since Noah is pretty new would he just instantly claim like this as scum? Does Mafia have a night 0 chat or something like that? It looks kinda towny for a person to claim so fast
Originally Posted by Kohai on 06/10/2026 at 21:11 (post #31)
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/6/2026 at 3:07 PM (post #30)
thank you helz
right now we are in a period called RVS (random voting stage). We are basically just trying to get a feel for folks and randomly vote.
Day 1, as you’ll learn, is mostly a crap shoot as we are working with nearly no information.
As the game progresses we can look back at these earlier stages and look at how people responded to pressure, claims, etc
This is gonna sound dumb but what it was purely vibes and it was this in particular I scumread.
Does anyone want to pocket me? I will allow it just this once
Originally Posted by Kohai on 07/10/2026 at 4:20 (post #166)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/6/2026 at 10:19 PM (post #165)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/6/2026 at 8:15 PM (post #163)
I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.
I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.
I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.
You realize pie isn’t in the game right?
🤦♂️
Thats literally the second player who hypos a person not playing the game
Although your reaction here is interesting
If I had to take a guess this is scum vs scum or Town vs Scum
first scenario would be “teammate how can you be this bad grrr!"
second scenario would be... something else ig
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 07/10/2026 at 4:15 (post #163)
I guess if I had an NP1 cop, it's between Pie and Noah.
I hate reading noobs; having certainty on Pie is always great.
I'm highkey thankful Noah claimed even it wasn't a good play. It helps.
Before anyone says otherwise: I don’t think this is alignment indicative. Scum can make a mistake like this too