Magoroth

Fair enough

If this site had signatures, I would put this in mine. Lol. First time I’ve seen someone say “it’s hard to emulate your town meta as scum”.

As an aside I am experienced, I just can’t control my emotions/freak out quite easily as scum hence why I usually play so poorly as scum. I can play much better as scum when I’m more confident.

I want an explanation out of you as to whats slimy and fake. Anyone can legitimately say that of anyone.

I just got out of a game where I was scum and you, Lunatic and Pie were Town. I dont see you as especially scummy because I saw your play last game and this game for me almost felt like an extension of the previous one where all 3 of you were Town. That’s why I said you could be Town.

in spite of what ppl may think, I am not RM, I can change my mind, I dont always scumread ppl who scumread me, it depends, I am crazy but I am not completely insane like he was. Well maybe I am but in a different way

Okay that makes sense, thanks. So lynching Shining is a bad idea because hes not gonna do anything.

Well, in that case

VTL RexFavilla

Since I do actually scumread him.

I am literally pressuring him right now. I could say the same thing to you about Shining. And yes much like you if certain conditions are met (e.g. Shining starts being active/gets replaced), I am down to vote Rex. In fact, at this point, if Shining gets replaced, and the replacement is active, I probably WILL vote Rex

You have yet to state how my post was TMI.

Its also straigjt up not true I reflexively scumread everyone who tries to scumread me. I am not scumreading Thoth, I scumread Alyssa initially but quixkly dropped it once I realized that i did the same thing to Lunatic in your game and didnt want to turn the game into a shitfest. You I only started scumreading until AFTER you started BSing last page. I had you as null before. I was even pushing to lynch Shining.

please elaborate on how my play looks completely fake and unlike my fake out of wf? what did I fakeout? i randomly lied and said wf visited someone? Nigga i literally claimed TOWN FRAMER that game how is that not comparable?

I have never said any of this. I never said I shoupd never be lynched. I said my play doesnt make sense as scum play and YES WIFOM YADDA YADDA, the classic argument that can counter every single damn argument made in this game.

what I said was that it doesnt make sense for me to claim Survivor unprompted like this, as scum, especially a Bulletproof Survivor of all things. i actually hadnt thought of all the bulletproof angles but im thinking of it now. why claim specifically bulletproof, especially 2x Bulletproof? I have no way of knowing if that claim is possible, and obviously if that claim isnt possible I couldnt have gotten it from Banana since this is Mharmans setup and its unlikely as hell he would give scum a fake claim that looks, well, fake. so it would have to be something I came up with. why would I, outside of a bastard game, stick my neck out UNPROMPTED, UNSUSPECTED, with a fake claim without even checking if it makes sense? as survivor, no less, which some players policy lynch out of principle? Even if my claim was believed i would be getting lynched so theres no point. What was I trying to achieve with that claim?

also, youre overreacting at the push on you, its not even obvious you will be lynched today since half the players havent even stated they want to lynch you and some want to lynch me, Shining, etc.

but for me the biggest issue right now is how you went from “Magoroths actions are NAI” to “Magoroth is ridiculously scummy” in like, 4 posts. if this wasnt super inconsistent, i would have you as my strongest scum read rn for stating such a confident read so early into the day.

I knew you would scum read that ;) come at me then. Why is it scummy? Take care. I know what youre going to say and if youre scum I advise you not to pick a fight with me over that post. But take your best shot

1. I’ve never seen someone pressure Shining for inactivity. It just isn’t done because many of the players are already inactive. Thoth, Rex? Lets start now.
2. You keep coming up with random reasons as to why we shouldnt lynch Shining yadda yadda, I don’t think youre being very honest here. My points are pretty simple, but it seems like you keep coming up with more because you really have an aversion to lynching him. Right now I’m reading it as tunnelled Town, but your insistence doesn’t help me. I could see you and Shining as a Team. Same way I could see Rex and Shining as a Team, because it appears theres a lot of inexplicable resistance to a Shining lynch.
3. I dont want to pressure or have this argument with you too hard because I do strongly disagree with you but its your first game back and I dont want you to leave over it. That sounded less retarded in my head.
4. Rex is the better vote for solving the game? Obviously but if Shining is scum we dont want him to coast by forever and as I already said we CANNOT afford an inactive lynch later down the line - we should do it now. (This is assuming Shining gets lynched which need not be the case if he actually posts and does… Town stuff)

I still want to hear from Rex before this gets completely derailed

Not sure why we’re arguing about this. Seems to me you’re just desperately against lynching an inactive and are coming up with reasons. Its scums choice to defend an inactive scum, same as literally every other choice one can make this game.

Why don’t you want to vote shiningv

Seems to me you’re asking leading questions. Also, there are ways to read into Rex as Town aligned (or rather there were MORE until Rex’s last post where he complained that I’m ridiculously scummy), you should find them. If hes scum im not giving him any freebies.

1. We could also just not have this conversation right now lol, there’s 0% chance uou will convince me, I will defend an inactive policy lynch on D1 EVERY game. But sure, I’ll have it if you really wanna.
2. It appears to me you are very tunnelled against the idea of lynching an inactive. You’re saying we could vote off of behaviour if hes blatantly prod-dodging (if that is a term used on this website), but we can literally speed up the process and not involve the host at all by pressuring Shining to post. Yes, that includes lynching him. I will consider allowing Shining to live and letting the host replace him ONLY if he is COMPLETELY inactive. Because obviously he would be replaced in that case and it wohld be a different story.
3. We dont have time to vote an inactive later on. We have little info on D1 whereas we do have info later days, wasting to lynch a random inactive when there’s EG role interactions is dumb. And inactives should be lynched as far away from MyLo aa possible. Am i saying an inactive lynch is IDEAL? No, obviously not. An inactive Town lynch sucks, but its better than going in blind and lynching someone who DOES post and ends up flipping Town. The ideal lynch is someone who flips scum D1, but we dont always get what we want. And, when are you gonna lynxh an inactive? D2? Even if they’re prod-dodging they could be deadweight Town, they dont have to be scum.
4. The host gave us the power to vote, so I’m using that power. Don’t blacklist people if you can correct their behaviour in-game with social pressure.

Wheres the TMI in that? I am literally saying I see why you could be scum but I’m not convinced. Its the definition of UNSURE which is the opposite od TMI.

Curious that Rex says me effectively saying he might be Town is TMI to him. Wonder if that’s guilty conscience due to him knowing he is scum and expecting to be scumread lol

Wonder if its a Shining/Rex team atm. Rex quick to try to throw his bucket of red paint at me when I suggest we pressure/lynch Shining.

Also, please explain to me how I’m ridiculously scummy? Bold words for D1.

Wheres the TMI in that? I am literally saying I see why you could be scum but I’m not convinced. Its the definition of UNSURE which is the opposite od TMI.

As an aside if Shining is Mafia, every Mafia lynch is good, and what will Mafia do? Will they try to defend an inactive and suggest another lynch? Will they vote then unvote when the pressure gets too high? Lets find out.

Rex we can deal with later after Shining. I’m not opposed to Rex so this isn’t a defense of him, but I don’t see him as ridiculously scummy. If he was ridiculously scummy I would obviously vote him over inactive, but right now his behaviour is… interpretable?

Also, by not pressuring inactives we pretty much give Mafia free reign to coast by as much as they want to. Mafia should be forced to post so they can give us info. In fact, EVERYONE should be forced to post.

That’s assuming he gets replaced. He could do the minimum amount of posting as not to be replaced and we would be in the same situation as now. Not sure why you’re so resistant to voting an inactive.

Is voting someone who actually posts useful when that poster flips Town? Even if Rex is scum he generates more info than Shining who has generated a grand total of 0 info.

D1 is also the best day to vote an inactive, and as an aside (good on for you pointing it out), I don’t actually expect Shining to get replaced. He’s always a low poster. So this is a call for him to step up and be active for get lynched. I’m not taking him to MyLo this game with his current play.

I see the argument for scum!Rex but he could also be Town, it’s not a super hard scum read, so I prefer an inactive lynch to 1) tell scum they can’t coast by forever 2) incentivise town to post 3) get rid of a player who is either scum and inactive or a Town who will forever be a wildcard and most likely get mislynched at MyLo. 4) Shining is Town and he actually starts posting and we switch to someone else

Because hes only posted once whereas Rex has posted a bunch of times.

Anyway if Shining doesn’t post we should lynch him today IMO

My brain wants to townread this whole thing and I kinda don’t wanna lmao

Shhh

Also, I thought he stole literal drugs, like cocaine or some shit. Not medicine.

Anyway

VTL Shining