Magoroth

I am okay with a Lunatic lynch. Also Rex. and Whiteflame. in no particular order.

VTL Lunatic

In Vader’s game, Mag1cman was Vanilla and his role PM said “You are Vanilla; you have no abilities”.

I was scum reading him at some point, if that’s what you’re wondering. I actually don’t trust anyone other than Wryly. And maybe Wylted/you, but that’s about it.

The rest of my role PM just says I’m Peatrice, was in Skyward Sword, during the events of said game I ran the Item Check Storage, and I have a huge crush on Link. That is literally my entire role card more or less.

Fine. Your losses.

I will paraphrase because the phrasing is rather short.

Basically there is nothing in my role card that says “You are Vanilla” or “You have no abilities"

It says, and I’m paraphrasing, “You have the power to vote”. More specifically it says that’s my ability, to vote.

Not a fan of the sudden push on me. Seems like I was town read most of the game by most players and now I’m suddenly getting railroaded. “Because I didn’t give a justification” or some shit like that.

I already said, if I was scum, why the hell wouldn’t I give my justification? I’m probably giving out a fake claim or a true claim; either way, it’s something Kohai would’ve given me or informed me about, so why the hell is this a reason to push me and override a town read?

It’s not like there are people here that aren’t genuinely scummy...

That’s not what it says. It’s more generic than that. That’s all I’ll reveal about it. It could work with every Vanilla not just Peatrice.

For you to think I’m scum, you’d have to believe that scum weren’t given fake claims or I fake claimed some random shit I came up with in my head. And that’s why I can’t give a justification. But considering what Kohai said - and that it seems likely scum were given fake claims - I have no idea why you’d believe this. I’m not giving my justification. Not because I’m scum, but because the way of saying Vanilla (it does not specifically say I have no abilities) is uncommon and would likely out other Vanillas.

I am not revealing that information lol.

Nice try, but no.

I will reveal this tomorrow, as I said. I don’t see the reason to give scum targets.

It’s a rare way of saying “Vanilla” that is uncommon on most Mafia websites. I don’t think it’s particularly common here either. So I won’t say it.

I ain’t waffling on shit. I’m not giving the justification. I already said why.

Voting a Town is always a risk, especially if you townread said person over others you don’t town read

Okay because my theory was that you scumread him because you were annoyed at him pushing you so hard for having an Epstein PfP, which would make sense and could come from Town you. I don’t like this answer.

I will reveal this tomorrow

So why did you scumread Thoth? Why were you so obsessed with him dying?

Am I the only damn Vanilla in this game?

He is obviously claiming his role or some shit has the power to DO STUFF

Oh no is Wylted hinting at ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

On the other hand, you do raise an interesting point. I assume you are telling the truth about what Kohai said, would be a strange thing to lie about considering it’s public information and people could call you out on it.

Makes me wonder if role claiming might not actually be a good idea in the end. Like, now, not at LyLo.

Wylted, not Thoth.

The only issue with Thoth confirming himself is that we are likely at LyLo tomorrow, barring any crazy night actions from power roles. So any confirmation tomorrow will be effectively worthless, short of him revealing himself as Innocent Child.

I honestly think everyone other than Thoth/Wryly is a scummy motherfucker. I probably distrust Wylted the least in that group, and then Pie, but by no means are they my town leans.

Wylted is obsessed with Thoth and has been for the whole game. That doesn’t strike me as towny, especially seeing as he is usually way more flip floppy and erratic. This game? Tunnelled on one or two players the whole game.

he actually changed his mind several times last game. So what gives?

Why do you scumread Thoth?

I think Wryly is likely Town. I just realized Thoth basically pushed Wylted all day for his Esptein PfP, then disappeared and basically fucked off afterwards. That doesn’t sound like scum behaviour to me, more like disinterested Town behaviour.

Heya Wryly. Thanks for subbing in.

Just a note, I likely won’t be around for EoD. It’s at 4am my time. Maybe if I wake up super early, but I wouldn’t count it.

If we claim at all, we should only claim characters. Won’t do us much good, but it’s not as bad as outing potential power roles.

We are probably 5v2 rn. In the scenario where we do no-lynch, we go to MyLo, 4v2 tomorrow. Not ideal.

So we should 100% lynch today and go to LyLo tomorrow. 3v2 is easier to win than 4v2.

In that event, I think nobody should claim today. We claim at MyLo tomorrow. It may be the case that there’s only one power role, in which case we get a CC war tomorrow. It’s not ideal, but it’s a 50/50 chance to win or lose. The scenarios are actually a bit more complicated than that, there’s two I can think of:

Scenario A: CC war. Say a Town reveals a red check on someone tomorrow. Mafia goes all in, puts themselves into a box as a team, goes all in and tries to lynch the Town. 50% chance they win, 50% chance they lose the CC war and probably lose the game, having outed themselves.

Scenario B: CC war. A town reveals a red check on someone tomorrow. One of the Mafia goes all in and says “X” is lying, and says “X and Mafia B are scum”, the other Mafia sides with the Investigator and says “Mafia A and Townie Y are scum”. Scenario B gives a 25% chance of winning immediately, and supposedly buys one of the Mafia some town cred in the event that one of them gets lynched, they fight it out D4 with a 2v1 and convince one of the townies to mislynch.

Either of these scenarios are possible. But in any event, 4v2 sucks. 3v2 is way better.

Claim Tracker

Thoth - Power role, not a protective role, claimed to be visiting me tonight because he town reads me

Pie - Some character that is apparently pertinent to Link?

Banana (flipped) - I can’t remember what her character’s name was, but her role was Governoress and would stump herself if she got lynched D1. I’m not entirely sure why Banana didn’t claim. We coulda lynched her and used her to overthrow lynches the following days if necessary. Not ideal, but it would give us a borderline confirmed town; her ability is either overpowered (at MyLo) or useless the rest of the game, if scum. I guess the same is true of her being town, but feels worse as scum.

How common of a role is governor on this site?