Magoroth

Actually, Mikal, how about you claim?

In a way, I got part of what I wanted, because I claimed. You claimed your ability conflicts with mine, so how about you claim your ability? Why even state that your ability conflicts with mine if you town read me? I don’t get the overreliance on mech, and that is precisely why I wanted a mass claim. Either ignore the mech, or do a mass claim, the end result is basically the same thing.

Magoroth

I still have the feeling you and Lunatic are aligned and you just gave him an out and tried to save him

I’ve literally never heard of bad cop/good cop in Mafia but that is what the two of you feel like

Magoroth

I’m not being fucking weird, I’m being pushed for completely BULLSHIT reasons. Now that I’m finally at my computer I can finally fucking type.


Lunatic’s reasons for sussing me are, to put it mildly, garbage. He claims having reads on those you interacted with ONLY is scummy, on D1 of all days. No. 1, it is NATURAL to have reads on those you interact with, that is literally the game of Mafia, it’s a social game and you have to interact with others to get a feeling for how they are. Are my reads correct? I still do think Lunatic is either some control freak that enjoys getting a rise out of people or he is scum, could even be both, I don’t think I’m down for no Lynch and will in fact only be voting either Lunatic this phase, or awesome, or Wryly. Wryly might be scum but at least she’s not an asshat so she gets a pass. If however, Lunatic is scum, and I let him get away with this BS and blatantly making out every action I make to be scum, I will never forgive myself.


Vote Lunatic.

VTL Lunatic

Magoroth

As for Vengeful, Town Vengeful only gets mislynched st MyLo if scum don’t know he is vengeful, yes I could technically use it beforehand but its utility at MyLo is immense

Magoroth

I didnt fullclaim my character because I figured abilities were more important and nobody asked me about my character. I only used it as a get out of jail free card to reinforce my abilities

Magoroth

It’s not about incentive, I have personally witnessed scum pushing others with info “from their role cards” so to speak, him saying I would die for claiming Watcher could be an attempt at appearing uninformed on the existence of Ninjas, scum do that sort of thing.


i will be answering the other questions when i get home, currently st the bus stop

Magoroth

Lunatic dialing down the pressure after I freaked out IRL is actually kinda scummy. He could just say I’m full of shit and keep scumpainting me if he was Town.


ORRRR TOWNREAD IT. Not find reasons why I have to be lynched in spite of being town or why I’m scum. He is almost certainly scum IMO.

Magoroth

At no point did Lunatic ever argue in good faith, he just asked questions to make me scum paint myself, this amn is scum, lynch him after me 1,000,000,000% of the time

Magoroth

Please mass claim D1, don’t let people like Mikal get away with making BS claims that cc without even saying what they’re actually claiming. If we lose because of a mass claim everyone gets to rail on me post game and call me a dumbass.

Magoroth

Okay well, I am honestly lost at this point. Fuck everyone for not trying harder to defend me. I lost the energy but I believe this man is scum. Once you see my flip, please fucking kill Lunatic posthaste. This man takes EVERYTHING I DO and aligns it with scum/no reason to keep alive. Please fucking lynch him. That is my dying wish.

Magoroth

Actually my character is called Concubine Mei: Bai Ruiji. I don’t know which of those are the personal name

Magoroth

One scum tell is when you townread people who scumread you, scumreading those who scumread you is more natural and in of itself is NAI (a bit towny though)

Magoroth

The thing is, to me, I know I am Town and the points you make are like ??? To me. Nobody has ever said to me that reacting to events is scummy, reacting isn’t scummy, HOW you react is. Mafia isn’t focused on self preservation as much as it is cowardly and afraid, if most scum players get into a 1v1 with someone they usually drop it, flail, stop defending themselves, disengage, etc. whereas town fights because Town is like WHY ARE YOU SCUMREADING ME you must be scum

Magoroth

“It will affect how I lynch you in future games”


You are trying to talk me into letting myself being lynched XD how is this not scummy sd

Magoroth

I’m not new but I am neurotic in general, so my playstyle varies from having very good reads that I end up doing nothing with to completely over the place hot mess.

Magoroth

For someone who merely misunderstands my behaviour, you sure do make a habit out of shooting down my counterpoints to you calling me scum

Magoroth

Basically I sought revenge against someone for murdering my malformed son or some shit, and due to my vengeful nature, at the highest rank I attain the role Vengeful

Magoroth

There. I am Vengeful due to my vindictive nature, something to do with


VTL Lunatic


Scratch what I said about Lunatic, I think me being angry makes me Town, not him. Him pushing this this hard makes him UBER CONFIDENT which is a SCUM TRAIT

Magoroth

Okay. Well… I’m Vengeful. I didn’t want to claim Vengeful because I wanted to keep it around until LyLo/MyLo in case I got mislynched. That would probably out both scum and win us the game.

Magoroth

My past experience indicates that when someone makes you incredibly angry when they push you, they are probably Town. Sorry. I’m just not used to this kind of pressure anymore, I used to be used to it but it was on my homesite which is now defunct.


Magoroth

I claimed Roleblocker and uhhh Watcher. I will actually full claim my last ability if it becomes necessary bc I don’t want to be lynched, I really wanted to play this game and it sucks that literally all 3 of my games here I would’ve gotten lynched. Both of my town games, too. I literally never get mislynched as Town. Or I used not to until MU/DC.

Magoroth

I am assuming Redirectors and such exist, it would be useful for scum to redirect a Framer onto random people, Miller is less important, a claimed Miller is almost irrelevant because the dude literally claimed he shows up as Scum, there’s no reason to visit a Miller claim as Cop so there wouldn’t be much reason for them to feed him favour; if anything they would steal favour from him bc people would go “but you said you show up as red, why did you show up as green last night?”

Magoroth

Redirect favour, give favour, in the end to the recipient it amounts to the same thing; if anything it might be stronger for scum to redirect rather than to grant favour

Magoroth

I want to vote Wryly and Thoth because they’re my top scumreads, but I really don’t want Lunatic to get away with this if he is scum. Almost want to vote him out of principle.

Magoroth

I am taking a step back because I actually have some nasty things to say and I’d rather not say them.

Magoroth

Ya know what, I’m scum to you no matter what I say. My entire fucking point id that this DOESN’T FUCKING MATTER. Who cares if I’m reactive or not? Some people are more reactive than others and it’s a perfectly valid way of getting reads. If yiu want to tunnel yourself into scumreading me, don’t fucking ask for my help in doing it, thanks.