Yeah, but if they can give favour they would obviously give me and Wylted favour, redirecting it from other people (in my role’s case, to their harm).
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Yeah, but if they can give favour they would obviously give me and Wylted favour, redirecting it from other people (in my role’s case, to their harm).
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Well, I can’t help that. These are literally my abilities and I can confirm that I am not lying about these two and will not change my claim and if I do, you can just lynch me.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Because the setup says other roles and not just the Emperor can grant favour, so I assume can steal favour or redirect it.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
That’s really a stretch. Since when is reacting to other players SCUMMY? I have to get reads one way or the other, if I do it based on people’s reactions to me it’s perfeftly valid because I can gauge people’s reactions (when I’m not getting grilled) to me more easily than to others, for like… a million reasons
Magoroth · 8 months ago
That’s really a stretch. Since when is reacting to other players SCUMMY? I have to get reads one way or the other, if I do it based on people’s reactions to me it’s perfeftly valid because I can gauge people’s reactions (when I’m not getting grilled) to me more easily than to others, for like… a million reasons
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I figured Framer was just unbelievable enouhh of a claim that scum would not question it snd just assume I am telling the truth, plus they could send me favour which would end up helping me and harming them in the long run. Besides, no-claim draws attention, claiming Framer doesn’t (to scum).
Magoroth · 8 months ago
VTL Mikal
you better claim. You just made me claim and now you’re CCing me without doing it.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
It seems to me she’s having trouble actually saying anything and when she does it’s stuff like that “Magoroth is erratic and scummy regardless of alignment”, which somehow manages to both 1) defend me and 2) say absolutely nothing, it’s just safe stuff that anyone who knows me can say
Magoroth · 8 months ago
okay? What are you claiming
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I can, but I won’t. My role is useful when it isn’t known what it is. It’s useless or almost useless when claimed.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Why would a scum act shy in a Mafia game? Because they have trouble acting in a natural way and are trying to avoid drawing attention to themselves.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Fine, I’m not Framer. I don’t want to reveal my actual “last” role because it’s a useful one and its usefulness drops to zero if it’s claimed.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I think you’re intentionally misrepresenting my points. How the hell did you get from what I said that “Wryly is shy”? Why the hell would you think I am literally using LITERAL shyness as a scum trait?
Obviously, being “shy” with scare quotes is scummy, being shy, as in literally shy is not.
Not sure if you just skimmed the thread in like 5 mins or you’re just scum. Kinda feels like this is NAI but still wanted to mention it because it stuck out at me.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I wrongly blamed some consort of something so I’m a Framer. Because I’m a spy I am a Watcher. Because of my needling of the other Consorts I’m Roleblocker.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
My character is called Bai Ruji and my rank is Concubine Mei (?), whatever that means. I killed the Empress’ son with plague and whatnot, don’t really have much else to say, that is what stood out to me from my flavour
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I’m not dropping the mass claim idea just so I don’t get scumread. I still do think it’s a good idea. Even if scum can claim whatever, presumably town will not lie and so at least 8/11 claims should be truthful or mostly truthful so we can still get an idea of what results to expect, and afterwards we can factor in additional scum roles which almost certainly exist, e.g. Tailor, Bus Driver, Framer
Magoroth · 8 months ago
If people are gonna say I scum slipped, they are full of shit. Watch for ehoever tries to defend this lynch tomorrow, or whoever tries to use it to push someone else. Anyone who claims I scum slipped is a liar because I cannot BY DEFINITIN scum slip.
also, I think it should be pretty fucken easy for people to find me here considering they have my scum game and I can share more if needed
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I admit I am biased, and it’s a little hard for me to be objective when I’m being pushed like this, mostly because, honestly I’m just fucking angey. You have people calling me RETARDED TOWN, or comparing me to khaosmagic or whoever the fuck that is, how am I NOT supposed to take this personally? I am literally being myself and I’m getting pushed for reasons I don’t understand, and on top of that my play is being called bad or dumb. If I was getting pushed for being some master manipulator or some garbage I would honestly mind it less. Instead I’m actually trying to play and I’m getting punished for it. How would you feel about it?
Anyway, that’s a rant. I can’t be fully objective when I’m being pushed.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Also, this is not true, Whiteflame did not ego boost me, he disagrees with most of what I said; wylted said I act openly scummy so I must be Town.
And I gave reasons why Pie and Wryly are scum, don’t act like I made that up.
Pie is scum because he randomly brings up me claiming Watcher out of thr blue and says “oh shucks you’re gonna die” which is the exact thing I would say if I was Ninja. You can act like this is “unconvincing” but this is literally based off of personal experience of what I have done and other scum have done.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
No. I don’t have to use my night action.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
On that note, please give me favour because you won’t regret it. Depose the false Empress, I am the rightful one!
Magoroth · 8 months ago
No, it’s not too wolfy to be a wolf, it is literally my final ability. Town Framer. Why do you think I brought up Mafia Doctor? Town Framer is almost as absurd, actually even more so because you never want to use Town framer, ever
Magoroth · 8 months ago
If you want me not to scumread you, come up with some stronger reasons to scumread me rather than “he doesn’t make sense!” Not making sense is 1) NAI and 2) I do believe I have made sense, so I could care less about the reasons why you scumread me (still annoyed by how many people are doing it though).
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I have like 2 favour and would appreciate being turned into the Empress so I can use my night abilities :)
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Fine. Watcher, Roleblocker are my odd/even night abilities. My final ability is Framer. Yes, I can frame people.
I haven’t yet looked at my flavour in any detail, would prefer not to claim this unless strictly necessary, but basically there’s a bunch of reasoning behind each action.
i should say i first become roleblocker, then watcher, then framer.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
VTL Thoth
I think Thoth is my top scum read.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Anyway I’m genuinely frustrated at this stage and will probably AFK for several hours. Bye
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Nobody has even given a reason as to why mass claim is bad. It’s all just “but if scum learns our roles”. I really, really don’t care if scum learns what roles we have. All information is public and more information is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing, especially seeinf as everyone in this game is a power role waiting to happen.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
I can’t wait for the end game where we lose because we didn’t mass claim and scum claimed some inane nonsense that let them get away with a whole lot of bullshit so I can go “I told you so”.
Magoroth · 8 months ago
Anyway, my top scum reads are Pie, Wryly, Lunatic. I had a town read on Thoth initially, but him calling me scum after he gave a bunch of reasons to townread me is pretty weird. Whiteflame did the same thing to me in Chicago Bears, on the second to last day of that game, and he was scum.
My only townreads are Wylted and Whiteflame, the latter for actually trying to understand what I’m saying and not just dismissing outright, even if he disagreed with it.