I honestly think the team is Wylted/Banana. I think it is that simple.
There’s a slim chance the team is Thoth/Banana or something like that, as a 2nd possibility.
Other possibilities are Rex/Banana and Rex/Thoth. I don’t know how likely or unlikely the latter two are.
Ig Wylted/Thoth is possible but it seems unlikely as hell to me.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 1:14 (post #198)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/26/2026 at 8:04 PM (post #197)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 5:33 PM (post #167)
I thought I might have been roleblocked or you were affected by some ability that blocked my Adjudicator, but I did not think the answer was worth claiming for.
That doesn’t really answer my question. You said you “kinda sorta got info”, so I’d like to understand, what info did you think you got? You already knew by the time you posted this that I’d claimed to be responsible for shifting the lynch, so I’m still unclear what info you thought you’d gotten beyond you being RB’d by someone, which didn’t require any claims to clarify.
Nothing in particular, just any indication that claiming my result, or lack thereof, might put other puzzle pieces together or if it might help scum.
I don’t get this. So you held off on claiming because… it would have done more harm than good to inform us all you’d been RB’d? I don’t see what information could’ve been garnered from getting more or different claims beyond banking on a town RB. How does your claim help scum?
What were you looking for from previous posts? What would have informed your decision to claim?
See last response.
Same lack of clarity. Give me a scenario where you could’ve looked up, seen someone post something, and decided not to claim.
I guess the point is if anyone claimed to roleblock him or if you claimed something at odds with his result, he would have some useful information to share. Like you could confirm someone’s night action that way.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 27/10/2026 at 1:01 (post #194)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 6:58 PM (post #192)
How did the conversation between you and Pie where you learned that you would block Strongmen come to pass?
I asked him one minute after he sent me my role card because I had heard different answers in different places about whether or not Strongman overrides Commuter
Alright, this does kinda check out since you stated at the very beginning of the day you asked Pie a question and the answer was the opposite of what you expected.
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 27/10/2026 at 0:58 (post #192)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 27/10/2026 at 0:56 (post #190)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 6:54 PM (post #188)
The question isn't what you would do as scum. It's what Thoth would do as scum.
How did the conversation between you and Pie where you learned that you would block Strongmen come to pass?
Sorry I don’t think this is English but I hope you get what I mean
Originally Posted by Thoth on 27/10/2026 at 0:56 (post #190)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 6:54 PM (post #188)
The question isn't what you would do as scum. It's what Thoth would do as scum.
How did the conversation between you and Pie where you learned that you would block Strongmen come to pass?
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:54 (post #188)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:53 PM (post #187)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:53 (post #186)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:46 PM (post #182)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:43 (post #179)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:38 PM (post #176)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:37 (post #175)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:31 PM (post #171)
If Thoth was scum - what exactly is he trying to do here? Give information that is totally useless and leads us nowhere? It feels more like a town mind set than a scum one.
I don't get this townread on Thoth. Is it literally just because his role doesn't give information? Or is it because he says he got RB'd? Or both? If this is more than WIFOM, I'd like to know what that is.
He first told us that he had information, and then when he reveals that information it turns out it’s this really ambiguous thing that could mean almost anything. I don’t see the scum motivation in that. It looks more like a Townie thinking he may have found something but not being sure how to interpret it
I disagree. It functions as a reason not to pursue him for a claim until more claims get out on the table, i.e. giving scum as much information as possible before he's forced to claim. And then his claim functions as a reason to put attention elsewhere and provides a pretty good likelihood that he'll be RB'd again, meaning he likely won't confirm his result next DP.
This is not likely in my opinion. Seems like a lot of effort for something that is of limited value. I’m not sure I’ve seen this happen
Dude, I just explained the scenario. It's not a lot of work just to claim you have a role that could give some information. I'm not fixating on Thoth being scum, but this isn't a lot of effort to set up, and much of what he's said about his role does not line up with what his role does or the foreknowledge that he'd been RB'd.
I get your point, I just don’t think this is likely. I wouldn’t do this as scum.
The question isn't what you would do as scum. It's what Thoth would do as scum.
Fair enough.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:53 (post #186)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:46 PM (post #182)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:43 (post #179)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:38 PM (post #176)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:37 (post #175)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:31 PM (post #171)
If Thoth was scum - what exactly is he trying to do here? Give information that is totally useless and leads us nowhere? It feels more like a town mind set than a scum one.
I don't get this townread on Thoth. Is it literally just because his role doesn't give information? Or is it because he says he got RB'd? Or both? If this is more than WIFOM, I'd like to know what that is.
He first told us that he had information, and then when he reveals that information it turns out it’s this really ambiguous thing that could mean almost anything. I don’t see the scum motivation in that. It looks more like a Townie thinking he may have found something but not being sure how to interpret it
I disagree. It functions as a reason not to pursue him for a claim until more claims get out on the table, i.e. giving scum as much information as possible before he's forced to claim. And then his claim functions as a reason to put attention elsewhere and provides a pretty good likelihood that he'll be RB'd again, meaning he likely won't confirm his result next DP.
This is not likely in my opinion. Seems like a lot of effort for something that is of limited value. I’m not sure I’ve seen this happen
Dude, I just explained the scenario. It's not a lot of work just to claim you have a role that could give some information. I'm not fixating on Thoth being scum, but this isn't a lot of effort to set up, and much of what he's said about his role does not line up with what his role does or the foreknowledge that he'd been RB'd.
I get your point, I just don’t think this is likely. I wouldn’t do this as scum.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 27/10/2026 at 0:49 (post #184)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 6:40 PM (post #178)
Same question for Thoth
Protection. I did not know my role also roleblocked WF. I thought it was just protection from other abilities, including the kill, and he was my strongest townread going into night 1.
I asked Pie if visiting WF would make my own action fail. I doubt this since I don't think of this kind of weird interaction as Pie's style, but good to know
Seems fair
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:43 (post #179)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:38 PM (post #176)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:37 (post #175)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:31 PM (post #171)
If Thoth was scum - what exactly is he trying to do here? Give information that is totally useless and leads us nowhere? It feels more like a town mind set than a scum one.
I don't get this townread on Thoth. Is it literally just because his role doesn't give information? Or is it because he says he got RB'd? Or both? If this is more than WIFOM, I'd like to know what that is.
He first told us that he had information, and then when he reveals that information it turns out it’s this really ambiguous thing that could mean almost anything. I don’t see the scum motivation in that. It looks more like a Townie thinking he may have found something but not being sure how to interpret it
I disagree. It functions as a reason not to pursue him for a claim until more claims get out on the table, i.e. giving scum as much information as possible before he's forced to claim. And then his claim functions as a reason to put attention elsewhere and provides a pretty good likelihood that he'll be RB'd again, meaning he likely won't confirm his result next DP.
This is not likely in my opinion. Seems like a lot of effort for something that is of limited value. I’m not sure I’ve seen this happen
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 26/10/2026 at 22:58 (post #160)
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 10/26/2026 at 5:54 PM (post #158)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 4:25 PM (post #153)
Originally Posted by wylted on 10/26/2026 at 4:20 PM (post #152)
Part of me thinks there is potential that the scum team wanted him in chat and that's the reason for the NK. I know Kohai's reaction almost clears him, but it could be me misreading it, and to top it off if anyone was going to specifically kill lunatic so he was in the scum chat it would definitely be you, so it's fucking with my head but I don't want to consider a whiteflame lunatic team right now,
Kohai would pretty much have to have known my role existed in the game for him to be scum.
Why? He could have just been blitzed at the end of the DP, hence the outsized reaction to being suddenly lynched. Usually he's lynched as town all the time and doesn't react like that. When your lynched as scumit usually feels worse. Scum would know his slot was surviving, because the lynch was announced as Noah. Then they had all NP to basically pick Kohai's replacement via the NK.
I don’t think Kohai continues to insist he was town after he was lynched in that case. The shift to Noah was not announced until the following day. Again: you’d have to believe scum were informed of the existence of a role that could reverse the lynch, or that Kohai was just adamant out of pure frustration after he’d recognized that he’d been lynched. I don’t buy the latter scenario and I don’t think Pie gives scum that information. That’s modpsych, but I think it’s well-informed.
To be totally fair, we don’t know what roles scum have. They might have thought Governor was a possibility so them asking that question wouldn’t be totally out of the blue. It seems unlikely anyone would do this though. They would have to believe Kohai would put up a really good act and of the players alive in this game right now I don’t know if anyone would have this belief.
I won’t even get into the conspiracy theory that scum wanted Lunatic to replace into Kohai’s slot.
Same question for Thoth
I just asked Pie, if someone’s night action fails they do NOT visit that person so the claims are not conflicting and seemingly bear each other out
Banana, could you tell us why you decided to visit WF specifically?
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 27/10/2026 at 0:37 (post #175)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/26/2026 at 7:31 PM (post #171)
If Thoth was scum - what exactly is he trying to do here? Give information that is totally useless and leads us nowhere? It feels more like a town mind set than a scum one.
I don't get this townread on Thoth. Is it literally just because his role doesn't give information? Or is it because he says he got RB'd? Or both? If this is more than WIFOM, I'd like to know what that is.
He first told us that he had information, and then when he reveals that information it turns out it’s this really ambiguous thing that could mean almost anything. I don’t see the scum motivation in that. It looks more like a Townie thinking he may have found something but not being sure how to interpret it
Interesting. So Banana claims nobody visited WF and Thoth claims he visited WF but his action failed?
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 26/10/2026 at 22:54 (post #158)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 4:25 PM (post #153)
Originally Posted by wylted on 10/26/2026 at 4:20 PM (post #152)
Part of me thinks there is potential that the scum team wanted him in chat and that's the reason for the NK. I know Kohai's reaction almost clears him, but it could be me misreading it, and to top it off if anyone was going to specifically kill lunatic so he was in the scum chat it would definitely be you, so it's fucking with my head but I don't want to consider a whiteflame lunatic team right now,
Kohai would pretty much have to have known my role existed in the game for him to be scum.
Why? He could have just been blitzed at the end of the DP, hence the outsized reaction to being suddenly lynched. Usually he's lynched as town all the time and doesn't react like that. When your lynched as scumit usually feels worse. Scum would know his slot was surviving, because the lynch was announced as Noah. Then they had all NP to basically pick Kohai's replacement via the NK.
Possible perspective slip
Wf is the weakest there because it’s just a role-based read and some rather weak meta there for the most part. I don’t know how to pick between Banana/Rex/Wylted
I feel like Thoth, WF, Kohai/Luna and obviously yours truly are Town. There’s one Town in Rex/Wylted/Banana and the other one is just scum. If Kohai is scum then he played me pretty well but I just don’t see this happening.
If Thoth was scum - what exactly is he trying to do here? Give information that is totally useless and leads us nowhere? It feels more like a town mind set than a scum one.
Wf, doesn’t feel especially scummy to me and Scum governor seems like it would be op - unless someone would like to suggest how the lynch could’ve been redirected from Kohai to Noah yesterday?
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 26/10/2026 at 22:54 (post #158)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/26/2026 at 4:25 PM (post #153)
Originally Posted by wylted on 10/26/2026 at 4:20 PM (post #152)
Part of me thinks there is potential that the scum team wanted him in chat and that's the reason for the NK. I know Kohai's reaction almost clears him, but it could be me misreading it, and to top it off if anyone was going to specifically kill lunatic so he was in the scum chat it would definitely be you, so it's fucking with my head but I don't want to consider a whiteflame lunatic team right now,
Kohai would pretty much have to have known my role existed in the game for him to be scum.
Why? He could have just been blitzed at the end of the DP, hence the outsized reaction to being suddenly lynched. Usually he's lynched as town all the time and doesn't react like that. When your lynched as scumit usually feels worse. Scum would know his slot was surviving, because the lynch was announced as Noah. Then they had all NP to basically pick Kohai's replacement via the NK.
It feels much worse to get lynched as Town than as scum, if anything this makes Kohai Town... you could argue that Kohai was faking it up and was over the top in an effort to seem Towny but IMO the suicide part is because of other shit that was going on in his personal life. I don’t think scum Kohai lies about this kind of stuff, and I don’t buy that he was hiding in plain sight.
If he was so upset at being lynched at scum why did he not just admit to it?
Sorry for not checking in, been busy with other things. What did I miss
I’m just wondering something, if most of the roles this game have to do with election integrity and votes, what roles do scum have? Do they have a counter to any of this?
Like that role that Luna flipped as, protects someone from being the lynch, I can steal someone’s vote, WF can redirect the lynch, what could scum have? These are all roles that deal with voting and would be useful for them to have.
So far the only investigative role this game has been Thoth, what if Demos can frame someone for January 6th, make them. appear to be scum?
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 26/10/2026 at 12:49 (post #125)
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 10/26/2026 at 5:36 AM (post #113)
Just reread DP1 and the Banana wagon seems sus to me now. Everyone should reread especially the last few pages. People are saying she's sus for being apologetic about the lynch/hammer when it's literally in response to Kohai talking about how he's going to kill himself irl if he gets lynched. It's not an 'oh I feel bad if you're town' deal.
Banana, just claim so we can move on.
Kind of sus that you are defending her here. Duly noted.
What do you find so scummy from Banana I’m not seeing it, I don’t find anyone particularly scummy or Towny at the moment
I hope I’m not killing the game with this push
Originally Posted by wylted on 26/10/2026 at 12:43 (post #120)
There simply isn’t enough information to be certain of *anyone’s* alignment this game.
There you go with certainty.
Since zero lynches happen with certainty behind them, that's a retarded metric.
Well, I don’t think there is enough info to read into anyone’s alignment with any degree of certainty. Most of the game is null to me
Wylted likes big dick plays as scum and he said it himself, he is more aggressive and pushy as that alignment, well that’s exactly what I’m seeing here so he should claim
Literally nobody in this game has done anything to be read as either alignment. So I don’t get why Banana is specifically being scapegoated when everyone is at fault. Everyone in this game is a scummy motherfucker.
Also where did Banana say she was Townreading Kohai? I thought she just joined because she wanted a lynch
I’d rather get a claim from the self-appointed Town bandwagoner who led a lynch on a player who flipped Town then wanted to switch to another player who flipped Town, than from Banana who is inactive. You first.
Originally Posted by wylted on 26/10/2026 at 12:42 (post #119)
What a cop-out, same way you make people claim under threat it can be done to you. So why don’t you claim?
The threat needs to be large enough. You and banana wanting it is not enough. Not a person who literally lied about their role and another who was town reading Kohai and just manufactured some reason to lynch him 30 minutes prior to the end of the DP that contradicted their earlier thoughts
So you won’t do it unless you’re at risk of dying? Remind me how this is town indicative? Muh defensiveness
Originally Posted by wylted on 26/10/2026 at 12:38 (post #115)
Banana wanna follow me on Wylted? He d esperately wants other people to claim and is “threatening” people for not claiming, how about we hear his claim.0 Like
Why are you trying to coordinate actions with somebody who is likely to be scum?
What makes you likely Town?
Also I don’t think Banana is likely scum. There simply isn’t enough information to be certain of *anyone’s* alignment this game.
