Magoroth

I didn’t knows Jews existed, I thought they were a myth. Kinda like aliens.

Bastard elements including mid game alignment changing mechanisms may or may not exist

Cult?

Morning. Quickly checking in. Just woke up. Will be back later.

You know, fuck it, I’ll play.

Never played Live Mafia before.

I’m interested in spectating.

/in

I’d like to change my game to a DnD-based setting I’ve come up with, if that is alright. Can’t be arsed to find flavour for Corleone (the Godfather), that I would also give a shit about.

Good game. Sorry to Lunatic for tunnelling on you so hard. You triggered a bunch of my scum tells which pretty much made it so that I never trusted you. It’s not your fault, I shoulda listened to my gut when I initially figured out you were Town back on D1, but was like “I’m not letting this go if he is scum”.

I misread Pie on the last day. Figured there was little chance of scum winning on D4.

VTL Kohai

I hate all of these options.

Lynchproof scum sounds ridiculously overpowered lol

I think that if he’s telling the truth about lynchproof, he can’t be scum.

Can you share this game

[Banana, Pie, Wylted, Lunatic, Me] are probably town. Only because all 5 expressed frustration, which seems like something town would do at this stage of the game.

Idk about mech. I’m not good at mech. The only thing is, Banana is admittedly new or has barely played forum mafia and I’m understanding this is one of her first games in a while. Her behaviour does check out under that assumption, doesn’t have to come from scum.

and her reaction does not strike me as dishonest.

Are you talking about Wryly or Banana here? I am actually not sure why I townread Wryly anymore, I think I was scumreading her D1. Fuck it

VTL Wryly

I kinda don’t believe Banana is lying here lol. Feels genuine, especially the “now I know what you were going through D1”.

do you have any reads or thoughts on the game? sorry to pester you, I realize you jumped in the middle of a hectic game on D3, it is appreciated.

Banana is probably Town.

But if scum have fake claims, wouldn’t Banana claim her fake claim, which presumably shouldn’t arouse suspicion?

Sure. Its just frustrating because my best guess at scum is literally you, and if its not you, then… maybe its Pie, idk, but IMHO it could almost be anyone.

sorry, functioning off of very little sleep. was literally falling asleep at my computer when I typed that last sentence, no idea what I even meant with Wylted being able to teleport. my point was that is Wylted is the only active person in that PoE.

First of all: I agree with your points on Pie. I too thought Pie’s shtick that there were (2?) scum and one Serial Killer, but I didn’t scumread him super hard for it, it is possible for Town to believe things that are sermingly random or strange. i would like for Pie to explain himself.

Second of all… your PoE lists only Wylted in it, Wylted being able to teleport and blink at akk

I was trying to quote the post. I forgot you need to manually quote stuff here cause otherwise it just pings the person you hit “reply” on.

So I was right about your response.

People scumreading you must be on some strong drugs. Right.

Okay. Let’s play the game a different way. If you are Town, who is scum? Why should I vote in [Pie, Kohai, Banana]?

Because, the way I see it, these are all just the inactive players. Do you actually think everyone else is Town?

Inactives aren’t scumreads, and it’s possible to read almost anything into an inactive since they post so little. So, forgive me but this whole series of events (me almost being lynched, Thoth getting lynched and flipping Town, now us going for yet another inactive), looks extremely suspicious to me. It’s a much simpler likelier explanation that at least one, if not two scum are outside the inactives.

What exactly was your feedback last nightv? In as much detail as you are allowed to explain? You said a shadow poisoner visited you?

if the SP visited you, perhaps his night action is odd and he makes you poison whoever you targeted (in this cade , me).

I guess it was in reply to Wryly and not you, but still.

VTL Lunatic

Final vote. Not unvoting.

On the off-chance that I am wrong about any of you being scum with him, please vote him.

oh, Lunatic will probably say something like “You are being delusional again” or whatever amounts to making me sound like I’m biased against him, he did the same thing with banana I think. Banana suspected him and he raged. But his reaction was quite telling, it implied he was townreading Banana, because why the hell would a town player rage at someone they scumread for scumreading them.

It does feel like half the people who got pushed (all of them?) got pushed because they were LHF. I will laugh my ass off if Whiteflame and Lunatic are both scum.

VTL Lunatic

it’s rather suspicious that the person everyone says scumhunted the most basically ended up with townreads on the most active players, and with scumreads on the least active ones. Note that he mentioned the existence of a potential Poisoner well before anyone else did, it makes me suspicious of him.

I don’t see why the hell they would even try to hide who’s who, quite obviously the “Doctor/Bodyguard” is Lunatic, and anyone with an IQ above room temperature in centigrade would be able to figure it out (as Wylted put it a while ago). I think the reason is to give Lunatic some WIFOM so he doesn’t claim Doctor.

Because, why in the hell would a Doctor hint at the existence of a Poisoner, when his role could supposedly heal from Poison and potentially nightkills? He could have one of the most crucial roles in this setup and yet, what he does is virtually out himself to that Poisoner?

The reason for that is that he IS the Poisoner. Doctor makes a great claim for Poisoner anyways (he might even be a Doctor, Poisoner/Doctor is a great role as scum because it allows you to Poison someone then confirm yourself as Town to that person you just poisoned.

Lunatic is the Poisoner.

There is a real chance we are dealing with a Pie/Lunatic/Whiteflame scum team. Pie to build up the idea that because I don’t die tomorrow (healed by none other than Lunatic, obviously), I must be scum. Then Lunatic tries to stall the lynch to buy towncred, they supposedly bus Pie while they’re at it (or maybe he claims 3P at the very end so they “let him live because we need the 3p to help us kill scum”), and voila.

Scum clean sweep.

as of right now I don’t trust anyone who is in that whole Lunatic/etc conundrum.

note that wryly, whiteflame and pie ALL said Lunatic is not completely out of the PoE, he could be scum but not likely. this is basically a form of distancing.

wryly is probably the least suspicious out of this lot, because she was like “Lunatic is almost certainly Town”, which is less hardcore distancing and more of a pretty rock solid position; if she was scum she’d have no reason to do this, Lunatic is in no danger of being lynched by anyone other than yours truly.

i exhuausted myself typing this. please vote lunatic, nothing in this game makes sense and the idea that we’ve narrowed the PoE onto mysteriously inactive scum is absurd. nobody has had any reason to townread anyone this game; literally the only person I have the slightest reason to townread behaviourally, other than perhaps awesome/maybe banana, is Wylted. Yet somehow we’ve successfully narrowed the PoE after two town mislynches? Gimme a break.

also, why the hell does Lunatic townread me all of sudden? Why can’t I be lying about being Poisoned? It’s really weird. You’d think he would have a little more to say about me, maybe push me slightly, be distrustful, yet he has done none of that. Yes, I get believing someone who got poisoned because “why would they lie”, but not an ounce of suspicion? This is strategic.

Lunatic’s reads also don’t feel genuine to me. He comes up with a huge wall of text and makes no attempt to explain or reevaluate in light that he was wrong twice.

before anyone says, why would Lunatic kill Mikal? mikal comes across as a rational player and he was probably afraid he would eventually turn against Lunatic once he figured things out.

Sorry, I’m kinda mentally checked out of this game at this point. I don’t know who it is and I’m just voting for the sake of voting.

Wrt why I said you were scummy, well I have a vibe that you’re being… cagey? It could just be me. I don’t know how to explain it.

To be honest, I’m mostly ignoring the mechanical information, at least with regards to which setup makes the most sense, because this is way too complicated for my tiny brain.