Half the town roles are duplicated, so I don’t think it means anything.
Half the town roles are duplicated, so I don’t think it means anything.
I think Pie is Town.
I guess my role this game is to veto town mislynches that everyone wants.
I guess he could be 3P, but I still doubt he would "If I was scum, how would I know there’s a TP? This makes no sense? I’m saying from a pure balance standpoint it makes sense to 8-2-1 but it’s obviously up to REF.” in that case.
Personally I think 8/3/0 works just fine, but that’s just my opinion.
VTL Banana
I don’t even really scumread Banana, but I definitely prefer Banana over Pie. And would prefer Lunatic over Pie. Still don’t understand why people townread him. I think he’s a good player and can easily seem town, so to me it looks NAI (but I have the benefit/disadvantage of more personal interactions with him so it looks scummy on a deep level to me)
Pie, why is Lunatic outside your PoE? Assume I am Town for a second. Is he possibly scum.
I know you’re probably gonna scumread me for this, but:
VTL Pie
Also, curious.
Do you find it suspicious how many people are seemingly mechanically confirmed, or is it just me?
Like, at this point, it’s basically D2, and there have been at least 3-4 mechanical confirmations (perhaps more, to my knowledge, I don’t exactly remember).
I don’t know Banana that well, but from what she said she’s new, I think the explanation checks out. Do you disagree with the fact that she’s new or do you find it unlikely that she’d react like that, regardless?
But there could be 3 Mafia.
Why do you think there’s a 3rd party?
I do think Banana is scummy, though, and would be down to lynch there.
Thoth would have been a great one to pump favor into in hindsight. Sigh. This is going well for scum.
I have no reason yet to townread whiteflame, Pie, Banana, or awesome5000/Kohai. Lunatic I like behaviorally so I'm putting him aside for now. It feels almost useless to push for claims since full fake claims were provided, but we can start with Kohai's claim.
Yeah like, we have two confirmed Town deaths, people seem to trust me now which means they believe me when I say I’m Poisoned, yet the game is giving vibes of “this game is solved, lynch in the PoE”? It don’t make sense
If Wylted is scum, why in a million years would he say to not target him. Having a protective role target him as scum would be a wet dream
Because it would arouse suspicion. Town cares way less about arousing suspicion with their statements, they may not consider it at all in certain cases.
I do still think he’s Town, so I guess it’s just him saying not to waste time saving a Miller.
Based on claimed night actions, the following people are probably not the Poisoner, who is confirmed to be scum:
-Wryly
-one of [Whiteflame, Lunatic]
-Shining
I townread Wylted, so that removes him from the equation as well.
I guess you have a point about the double-voter. I have my doubts Rex would give scum a double-voter AND a Poisoner. So far, no Poisoner has claimed, so the Poisoner is scum. That would require town to Lynch correctly literally every day.
so lots of roles are doubled.
would like to hear from everyone how much favour they have and exactly what action they took on night one as well.
Depending on how many scum there are, and what the Poisoner’s ability is exactly (1-shot, ?), I think there is a chance we could be at MyLo tomorrow.
Assuming I die of poison tonight, we could be at 7v2 right now. With a mislynch and a Town death, that’s 4v2, MyLo.
And that’s assuming the poisoner can’t poison again. With a Town Vengeful, maybe a scum Poisoner that can poison multiple times isn’t that far fetched, especially considering all the crazy roles we’ve seen yet.
8v3 at start is also possible, but then the poisoner would have to be one-shot (possible); in which case right now it’s 6v3, with a mislynch we lose, so technically there is a possibility, but a slim one, that we are actually at MyLo right now. It would certainly help explain how many people seemingly confirmed each other’s roles.
Idk, it just feels too easy for it to be Pie/Kohai/Banana.
Do you know each other’s alignment?
Wait, I missed Thoth’s role.
So, we now have:
Tracker/Roleblocker/Vengeful -> me
Role Cop/??/?? Empress with two votes
Watcher/??/?? Apparently the same passive ability as the Empress.
Jailkeeper/Rolestopper/Adjudicator, when he dies at night the following night phase is skipped.
Literally the only anti-Town role thus far has been Wylted’s Miller claim. What is going on. Town is already ridiculously overpowered with all these roles, and seemingly at least half these people had enough favour to carry out their night action.
I find this sus. At least one of those claims is a lie.
"Could someone heal me tonight? I’d rather not die. Also the fact that nobody is coming forward with a Poisoner claim makes me think the Poisoner is scum."
I guess it’s not super obvious, but I did kind of imply that I would only die at night, since obviously nobody could heal me if I died during the day.
End of the night.
Since the night was skipped, I’ll be dying tonight, unless someone heals me.
If people don’t trust me, I am okay with not being healed as a way of “proving” I am Town, and saving you a mislynch tomorrow.
Not sure if I said this. I probably did?
Anyway, will be checking in later today. Or rather tomorrow, I’m UTC+1 and it’s 1am here.
Vote Lunatic!
I’m not sure you realise, but Thoth flipped Town. EVERYONE had all day to suggest alternatives and nobody did, except for Awesome/Kohai who is probably Town...
I’d give you one but mine is probably biased.
The one that removes all the personal elements would be something as follows.
I pushed hard for a mass claim on D1. People scum read this. I was asked to claim at one point, and I lied abut my last ability, I claimed Framer, it was in fact Vengeful.
I was almost lynched on D1, sneaked out of a Lynch by screaming and kicking, and we no-lynched D1. I accused Lunatic and a bunch of others but mostly Lunatic of being scum.
Mikal believed I was Town but wasn’t sure.
D2 was basically.. nothing relevant
led*
VTL Lunatic
He lead two town lynches, town is just implicitly accepting him as Town, I would say he needs pressure but I’m just pretty sure he is scum.
Also, I know I just said Wylted is Town, but him saying “no no protectives on a Miller” is sus. It’s LAMIST and also weird. Town should ALWAYS be okay with doctors/bodyguards/whatever on them, unless they are not Town and just saying it because “look how towny I am, I am Miller, go heal a Cop you idiot!"
What is the PoE ATM? Pie/Thoth/Banana/Awesome or something?
I would add Wryly and Whiteflame to it. Pie I have absolutely no read on at all.
And I would say that the Lynch order should be something like,
Pie > Wryly > Whiteflame > Lunatic > ...
Pie, I’m only putting there because I have literally no read on him.
protective roles should be on people we trust to be town.
why are you telling people not to have protectives on you?
I’ll eat my words if Thoth is scum, but I have my doubts he is.
Wylted - Claimed Miller, seems all over the place with reads in a way that indicates Town. Plus, a bunch of other stuff like baiting reactions by lying about me visiting him, that feels like it should come from Town. Top town read.
Shining - I thought his reaction to me sussing him was over the top, but now that he’s been outed as the Empress, it makes sense. Second highest town read.
Thoth - Light town read. D1 I thought his OMGUS at me was rather Towny, usually scum doesn’t OMGUS that hard. Not very sure of him but Thoth’s activity is mostly NAI from what I’ve seen of him. Also, not a fan of how people seem to be comfortable with this Lynch.
Whiteflame - I feel like Whiteflame’s taking some things for granted that he usually wouldn’t. Not sure how to slot him. D1 I thought he was Town, now I’m not sure. Could be either Town or Scum.
Banana - Not sure. Both towny and scummy points. I’d say a bit townier than she’s scummy. Maybe should be in the Town slot rather than Schrodinger’s Scum.
Awesome - My gut tells me this is Town, but I’m not sure. Potential for Awesome to be Lunatic’s partner since he was like “awesome or Thoth” and then ppl agreed on Thoth. Not necessary, but it is possible.
Wryly - Not sure. I thought she was scummy D1, but somehow her play style seems townier than on D1? I might be biased. Could definitely still be scum.
Only person who goes in here is Pie. I have no read on Pie either way.
Lunatic - Acting like Town leader today, makes people feel too comfortable, and was potentially trying to drive a mislynch on D1, I’m suspicious of this slot.
Anyone I haven’t mentioned goes into True Null Reads.
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i might not be around later, so i'll go ahead and add my vote now. seems like thoth is the lynch today
vtl thoth
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this post is very scummy to the point where I’m not sure it could come fro scum. does scum does just come to put a vote on the top train and disappear?