Magoroth

How does a host make setup with Princess, Watcher/Roleblocker/Vengeful, plus a RoleCop/Mayor who cleared the vengeful, plus a Tracker who seemingly cleared the role cop and himself?? Does that make any sense? Is that not ridiculously town sided?

Magoroth

I don’t really like this EoD. I’m very suspicious of the fact that multiple people have been cleared mechanically and it leaves me very uneasy. I would expect you to be one of the first to mention this, whiteflame. Why haven’t you?

Magoroth

I still do believe Wylted is a person I’m never lynching this game. If anyone still disbelieves the fact that I’m Town, after I die, please put a memo on your computer that says “Wylted is Town and I shouldn’t Lynch him”. Protectives on him.

Magoroth

I honestly still think Lunatic might be scum. He’s acting like Town leader trying to get everyone’s thoughts/claims and asking shit that just looks towny on the surface, but in fact is NAI.

And now we’re walking kinda braindead into a lynch, all because of mechanical clears. In a game where everyone is or can become a power role. And scum has fake claims. And they have only 2, which implies one of the scum doesn’t even need it.

VTL Lunatic


Also, we should have a counterwagon to Thoth. Nobody is defending Thoth and he’s not even here for EoD. I don’t even think Thoth is especially scummy.

Magoroth

I have a strange feeling one of the people who got randomly “towncleared” is probably scum.

Scum has two fake claims, and in game of this size, you’d expect there to be three scum. So why not three fake claims?

My guess is one of the scum has a Towny role/character and doesn’t need a fake claim.


Magoroth

sorry, kinda zoned out of this game for a bit, did other stuff. I see Thoth is at L-2 even though there’s only 3 votes on him, I assume one of them is the Empress. Why is Thoth being voted?

Magoroth

Why do you think I’m being a dumbass for voting you?


My reason for thinking you’re scum(my) is that Mafia do like to reveal their investigative results, for towncred and because, who’s gonna kill a Mafia? It’s risk-free.

Magoroth

I agree with ILikePie5 that shining claiming here is a little sus, it kinda feels like it wasn’t really necessary? I don’t think anyone was actually doubting my claim

Magoroth

Yeah see. This is what I don’t understand. Why does this role cop check on me change people’s read on me? I don’t get it. I don’t understand why I was scumread before and now I don’t understand why I am townread.

Magoroth

Consider my vote on awesome in spirit. Not voting yet because I do not know how many votes are on awesome and don’t want an early hammer.

Magoroth

Ok so apparently I wasn’t vanillaized. I need to read my role card better next time lol.

My watcher ability was tied strictly speaking to the Empress Dowager (Mikal). Now that he’s dead, it’s been disabled.

Magoroth

Your avatar and Shining’s look almost the same and I had to do a double when I read your last message cuz I was like “Is Shining talking to himself?"

Magoroth

I get the feeling Banana is town, actually. My guess is that if she was scum, it would be odd for her to state she has two ways of confirming herself. It doesn’t feel like something a scum would say.

Magoroth

I don’t know. If I’m scum his incentive is clear (if he is scum), you’re right he could just allow me to be mislynched if he was scum. Probably I would just lie back and wait if I was scum and wait for someone to mislynch Magoroth.


It was more that I didn’t understand Wylted’s flip flopping on me, but I guess I’m being retarded for questioning it; it is Towny to flip flop and wylted really hasn’t been especially scummy, by any means.

Magoroth

Ok fair enough. I guess you flip flopping around so much makes you townier. Town flip flops, scum appears more collected.

Magoroth

Wylted, could you explain why you unvoted me after Shining claimed rolecop on me? Why does his “confirmation” of my role make me Town in your eyes? FYI I can’t understand why I was being scumread and now I can’t understand why I’m being townread.

Magoroth

Could someone heal me tonight? I’d rather not die. Also the fact that nobody is coming forward with a Poisoner claim makes me think the Poisoner is scum.


Second, we’ve already had so many claims, I think it would be safest if everyone just full claimed at this stage.


I don’t really care about characters. Host confirmed there isn’t much to go off flavour, so maybe only claim your justifications.


note that scum received only two fake claims, and I suspect there are 3 scum. Which means the third scum either has no fake claim and needs to make something up, or they don’t need a fake claim and can just true claim their actual role.

Magoroth

I think that Mikal was killed because he was probably right scum were off my train, now that I think about it. Nobody here is genuinely super scummy, which to me indicates the scum haven’t really been pressured.

Magoroth

I do believe Wylted is Town because again why the hell all the weird stuff, why claim Miller, why lie about who stole your favour, especially when its so in your face

Magoroth

On another note, not really game related but I disagree with some of those takes. But maybe it’s just a culture clash issue and not important. I apologize for making it personal, it was not my intention, I genuinely was frustrated because it seemed to me at the time you would scumread everything I said and did regardless of how I answered it, which set me off. Of course, if you read these things in the way you do and it sets off your scum metre it seems more like a misunderstanding than you being scum or whatever. So I want to apologise and go forward with a clean slate between us :) No sense in hating each other in our first game

Magoroth

Lunatic, can you answer the following, I still can’t quite get over how scummy it is to say that we can afford a mislynch:


  1. why did you say “even if you’re Town we can lynch you”?
  2. I still feel like the questions you asked me, either you had already made up your mind on my alignment, or you just really wanted me dead. Can you explain what exactly you found scummy about my behaviour and why