RexFavilla

Let’s just say I have very strong feeling that claiming character is part of anti claim and the forced outing of your character counts as a character reveal. That said I’m really emphasizing no more claims or soft claims.

I mean, I agree but I don't understand the vehemence. My PM doesn't imply that it's particularly dangerous, I'm thinking yours must. Or you just really, really don't want to claim but I can't see scum who doesn't want to claim doing something so bald-faced to discourage it. One thing I want - does anyone else have something in their PM which implies that there are dire consequences to character claims? You can just say you do, no need to elaborate.

Wtf, why yall watching this shit. Low key kinda creepy

I miss when anime was about futuristic bikers fighting ESP-powered flesh monstrosities and not low-key pedobait.

Looking into the RVS of Kohai, it’s really hard to even say that there is a guaranteed scum in that pile. Maybe Rex based on previous experiences and games with them??? Not really sure.

This feels townie to me.

Hello.

I know nothing about this theme.

VTL Kohai

I'll play

This was bad for me cause the only DP I got was the one I hate the most and a bunch of real life shit happened, but it was fun to watch. Good on Luna for figuring it out.

I have a strong suspicion of who Kohai is and, like Thoth said, a good reason to townread him. I’ll leave it at that. I also have good reason to townread Thoth as I said earlier. Guess we’re just generally on the same wavelength because I’m also sussing Luna just a tad. Be able to explore that more after he softs.

With a fake claim on the table and a seven-player game I'm not putting much stock in softs. If anything, scum would be incentivized to soft because they have nothing to fear and everything to gain. I personally love to do this as scum. This is what makes me most suspicious of Thoth, not the supposedly TMI stuff others have pointed out - why breadcrumb an important character DP1 with no pressure? Seems more scum-motivated. Also find his oh-I-really-shouldn't-do-this way of outing Kohai as an apparently important character instead of just letting his soft stand unmolested. I think he might be 3P - solving the game genuinely but in a way which is indifferent to the anti-town implications of revealing information.

Townie vibes on Luna, WF, and Pie but those are all players that I can't trust vibes on. Just sort of browsed through today. I'll check in again tomorrow if there's more activity, need to get to bed soon.

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My soft is male. Reading up now.

Been crazy busy at work and with life, will be free to post late tonight

I mixed it up with 'Demon Slayer' lol. I'm completely lost on theme.

VTL Pie

Well this is apparently not the Demon Hunter I thought it was.

I'll throw my hat in the ring.

Figured I'd post this even though I don't plan to launch it until Jan/Feb. Just to get some people down. Feel free to skip me on the list as it's a twelve player game with an experimental concept.

The theme is Ruyi Zhuan, or Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace, a particularly lavish harem drama which explored the reign of the Qianlong Emperor, a golden age during the Qing Dynasty. A sequel to Empresses in the Palace, one of the most acclaimed harem dramas of all time, it follows the life of the 'Erased Empress', a real historical figure about whom relatively little is known, aside from the fact that she came from the Nara clan, became step-Empress, and then cut her hair in defiance of the Emperor, after which he erased her as thoroughly as he could from the artistic and historical record, confining her to her palace for the remainder of her days. The protagonist of the Empresses in the Palace, Niohuru Zhenhuan, serves as the imposing Empress Dowager during this series.

Theme will not be terribly important for playing the game, as the setup will involve the Emperor being aloof and confirmed as town (he will have no vote and will be deathproof, and he will win with the town). The Empress Dowager will be unique character with powerful abilities. All of the other characters will be concubines, who will unlock roles or lose them as they rise and fall in rank, which will be governed by favor - something the emperor will distribute among the concubines during twilight. This makes manipulating the emperor a critical component of victory for both town and mafia. Most roles will be either even or odd to prevent the game from becoming too swingy, with permanent passive roles only being open to two of the ten concubines at the highest ranks. As harem dramas usually involve just about everyone being underhanded and sneaky to sometimes downright evil, there is not really an obvious good/evil split.

Link to the first episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwGz8S24A4M&list=PLy8WDOJkSFFyiL8W8323OgwfI7oS11I1q&index=2

Rules are the same as my last game.

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/in

Hahahaha I KNEW you would kill Pie that's what y'all get for being predictable as fuck.

VTNL

Will be pretty busy today, will have more time to post tomorrow.

Communicate entirely through memes.

Also no one type a lot

Word restrictions. Cause die. Not sure which

got warning

ideas?

Just you or everyone? Did you receive this message on Discord or on DC? I didn't even get a role PM on discord, just on this site.

Hello friends. Who we lynchin' today?

/in

Luv me quick games

'ate noight phases

Simple as

Nothing there but the normal four options for me.

wdym?

Rex is almost making it sound like I didn't know that Suikoden is about recruiting the 108 Stars of Destiny, which, whether he meant to or not, is basically insulting me by accusing me of not reading the information he posted in game threads and not looking up the most basic information about the game. Mikal said there were factors that determined which characters were recruitable and that you wouldn't know unless you had played Suikoden.

I said that you did know this, but you let Mikal scare you away from it with his bullshit.

Joshua’s as strengther

This was because when Leknaat tried to counteract Windy's half of the Gate Rune with hers and failed (because her sister was more powerful) Joshua channeled the power of the Dragon Rune to bolster her and allow her to destroy more of the army that her sister had summoned.

The reason I didn’t SoP hated was because I couldn’t get an answer on whether or not it goes away at LYLO/MYLO. Wanted to avoid a scenario where I’m just kept alive until the last DP and then quickhammered.

I probably would’ve just grit my teeth and claimed without the Cop ability cause not telling town about the Hated and claiming it later is very sus, but having the cop ability gave me idea to just hide the hated, cop someone NP1, reveal cop results DP2, and then get killed by scum NP2.

By the time I had left the thread and came back, Whiteflame had already submitted a shot at me, so there was no point in claiming there either, and I don’t know how one just predicts all that happening and SoP claims before it does.

I thought that you not SOPing hated was smart in this situation. In theory you could have taken that role to mylo/lylo but only if the mafia recruit failed. It was a way to kneecap town and force them to waste a lynch on the cop if mafia got kneecapped with a failed recruit.

That was my claim, that was the janitor. For you to call that short sighted you HAVE to admit that it was retarded to put multiple healing roles in the game, and I am not even saying that, you are inferring that by saying I made a dumb decision by using a janitored claim. Makes no sense lol. Means you knew that this would cause some chaos when you designed the game. I am in an uninformed minority, I have no clue what role im janitoring especially from an inactive player who hinted nothing about what he was. Whatever his claim was, was what I was going to have to stick with, and I played it the same way I would have as town.

My issue was that you didn't claim the janitored role, which was 1x doc. You claimed straight-up doc, as in 'I can protect someone every night' doc. I feel like if you had claimed 1x doc it would not have been as sus. Even with you claiming full doc Supa in particular was starting to notice how excessive healing roles might be balanced by the extra kills that were possible.

Split was basically Tir & Mathiu vs everyone, with a 'core' of Empire characters who couldn't be recruited, the Five Generals who could bar one, and a couple of neutrals like Leon and Joshua and of course Yuber as the wildcard. The idea is that in the game you start out as a fugitive and the whole world is against you, and you have to win allies and defeat enemies.

I think Luna is mostly pissed about my tongue-in-cheek comment about giving Mikal MVP but I do want to respond to some of the balance criticisms.

To defend the antirecruit: it was mostly nullified in DP1. The scum team originally wanted to recruit Mikal but picked up on him softing that he was unrecruitable. The game was structured in such a way that one of the unrecruitable players would have to out themselves by broaching the topic of recruitment - in this game, that was Mikal. Then Airmax flat-out outed themselves as unrecruitable. Then Kohai laid down enough info over the DP that scum were able to correctly guess his character, which they would never recruit because him dying helped them immensely. Whiteflame 1.0 also outed himself DP1. The only remaining wildcard at this point was Pie, so even if scum randomly recruited among the remaining pool of players NP1 (Pie, Wryly, Wylted, Shining, Whiteflame 2.0, Vader) they had an 83% chance of hitting a recruitable player. By the end of DP2, with Pie claiming, that chance rose to 100%. This is what I meant when I said in the last game's endgame that anticlaim would be built into the structure of the game. I actually do not fault them for foregoing the recruit NP1, I probably would have done the same. But making that decision necessitated that they play DP2 as cautiously as possible and to above all else avoid Thoth getting lynched. They did the exact opposite of that.

For the three protective roles, the 1x Doc by itself should have forewarned you of that. Scum knew that Wylted wasn't lying about his Poisoner role because they knew that he was town. They had WF's TP vig flip. They knew that they had 1x, potentially 2x strongman shots. Shining's card makes no mention of protecting against poison or dayvig shots, something that both Whiteflame and Wylted had mentioned already at that point. The game would be laughably unbalanced with just a 1x Doc. To counterclaim Supa was a ballsy but shortsighted move, because it meant as soon as he died you would be on the chopping block.

It is? Oops lol. I thought that was only Miller Gravedigger and PGO.

It's not, you were Loved (Popular) not Beloved.

they were so invested in Mikal's lore mastery that they bought his bullshit about this being a complicated issue

False af. I commented multiple times that mikal was probably wrong in much of his analysis, both in game and the discord and can take screenshots to prove this. Why are you lying? you salty because you made bad modding decisions? Don't lie because of it lol.

This is what Thoth told me in a separate PM. Hence 'one of the scum team'. Take it up with him, but he expressed reticence about which characters he could have recruited, and I mentioned the list of Stars of Destiny he could have used. He then said that he didn't think that would have been reliable because of what Mikal said, and I did recall you suggesting that you weren't sure who was recruitable either.

Also scum were very confused about who to recruit while I thought it was quite simple because most wikis have a list of the 107 Stars of Destiny, who are all recruitable characters. However, one of the scum team have informed me that they were afraid to use it because they were so invested in Mikal's lore mastery that they bought his bullshit about this being a complicated issue that you couldn't understand unless you played the game. So for so frazzling the scum team I think he and Pie might deserve joint MVPs lol.

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