Wryly

Confirmed town: Morgarath, Alyss, Evanlyn, Horace, Tug, the Kalkara, and for myself I can add Malcolm to that list


Confirmed scum: Halt


???

Wryly

Bro. If you were town you would be VTLing me. You know Luna is innocent because he didn't hammer you as soon as I VTL'd you. Why wait unless you're stalling until you can flip Luna to me and then hammer a mislynch.


Watch Wryly claim she visited me or Luna and she just caught me lying about being Tracker.


I'm lost. Why would I do this? I already said I protected Rex.

Wryly

Nope.


The mafia wiki said doctors don't get informed if their night actions are successful, I haven't gotten a message about any of my night actions

Wryly
What? Your protected Rex and he still died?


Yep.


After Magic's lynch I knew it was either Magic/you or Magic/Thoth. If it had been Magic and you, Rex wouldn't have survived his visit to you NP2. So I knew Thoth was scum. He wouldn't want me dead, it would out him by POE.


Then it was a count flip between protecting you or Rex. Would Thoth think he had a better chance of convincing you to lynch me or convincing Rex to lynch me? Probably you. You had townread him pretty hard DP3 while Rex had scumread him DP3.

Wryly

Up to you now. I protected Rex last NP. That he died anyway means Thoth's power has a roleblocker. Probably no tracker element to it at all. He only ever tracked his own scummate and someone who'd already declared who he visited. I VTL'd Magic, Thoth waffled.


VTL Thoth

Wryly
I've literally never seen this mirror maker role used EVER in any game.


Okay I thought this was a common role. If it's not it sounds like he's just reaching.

Wryly

#68, something about a mirror maker that hit WF and bounced back on Rex and Magic both.


If Thoth is telling the truth, then the only role that could've possibly redirected me to myself is a Mirror Maker placed on Whiteflame, at which point Rex should've had his roleblock bounced back at himself, which is something I completely missed last DP (which is why I just realized I didn't need to wait on Thoth). This would easily make him the teammate, and the claim was simply something he pulled out of his ass. I've realized that although Rex is more passive of a player, it doesn't mean he can't try something when he's almost certainly going to be the lynch.
Wryly

All right I'm gonna call it a night. Bookmark:


The following scum teams are still possible:
Mharman Me
Mharman Thoth
Mharman Wryly
Mharman Luna
Wryly Me


You can eliminate Magic/You from that list. As Luna points out, it leaves Luna as townie but still lying about the dreamer results.


You can eliminate Magic/Luna as well. You would have died from visiting Luna last NP in that setup.


So we're down to:


Magic - Thoth

Magic - Wryly

Magic - Luna

Wryly - Rex

Wryly
Not Luna, because if Luna were a fake dreamer he wouldn't put Thoth in POE.
(Post #89) Not to imply that Luna or I are scum, but rumor has reached me (before this game started) that Lunatic is notorious for taking ridiculous risks like this, hence why I have been moderately skeptical of him being the Dreamer.


I can buy him taking risks if there's something to gain by it. What is there to gain from placing a scummate in POE? Generating doubt that they're scummates? How could that be worth it. The chances of it hurting outweigh the chances of it helping.


(Post #110) Are you speaking hypothetically, or did Lunatic claim 1x Dreamer?


Yes.

Wryly
If it was rex and me, and you were town why haven't joined mharman and hammered you already for the win?
If it's Rex and thoth why haven't they hammered you already
This is impossible, because it would mean I was lying about my dreamer results and would have to be scum, and if there were three scum the game would be over.


Also if it was Rex and you, why not NK Magic or me.

Also if it was Rex and Thoth why not NK Magic.


Yeah it appears to be stacking up.

Wryly

Yeahhh only now realizing I didn't understand how NKs work at all. I thought scum like submitted their NK decision to the moderator and the moderator basically carried it out. I did not think one scum or the other executed it or that it was a traceable visit like any role action, or that a roleblock stops it.

Wryly
I was aware of the possibility of this ending the game but I was willing to gamble on it because it was critical to lynch scum next DP, and if Luna was scum he would probably carry out the NK to avoid his teammate from doing anything incriminating.


Could you explain that last part, I'm having a brain fart.


The fact the Luna was roleblocked would also confirm to him that I visited him if he were town. So I feel like if he were scum and creating this false POE my targeting him would stop the NK and kill me, allowing me to be tracked to him if Thoth and Wryly were town.


So you didn't know that Luna was a 1x Dreamer, meaning he wouldn't be aware of being roleblocked at all and this tactic was for naught.


Also not clear on how targeting Luna would stop the NK if Luna was scum.