Ok, perfect time to reveal this.

I was not entirely truthful about my role. I do in fact cause votes to become anonymous, but I do not out scum when I die. Regardless of who kills me, votes become anonymous.

If you noticed, Pie only started going after me after I claimed, probably because he realised how unlikely the role was.

I breadcrumbed this right before my initial reveal, if you look up the posts just before, the capital letters spell out DIE TO AL. In retrospect I should’ve said “REVEAL TO ALL” and then it would be more obvious, but just so you know I came prepared.

Reason I’m saying this is, Pie ONLY pushed me because he knew I was full of shit. I almost slipped a few times when I called my role fake. He pushed me for the Town cred (cause he knew it wouldn’t out me OR his partner if I died), and it gave him an excuse to push me. I think this should be a pretty strong defense for me not to be scum.

So, I will not vote. One of you has to convince me they are Town and that the other is scum.

Originally Posted by wylted on 02/09/2026 at 13:33 (post #1027)

I just want to know who mago is more willing to vote for and place my vote there

Mikal forcing us to make this choice “me or him” reminds me of my scum game, and honestly I don’t like being forced to do shit so I might just Lynch him out of principle lol

Originally Posted by wylted on 02/09/2026 at 13:32 (post #1024)

guess he meant that Town could’ve roleblocked him or something

It doesn't matter l. Who is your first and second choice for scum?

First is Mikal, I don’t have a second one yet.

I guess the most obvious choice is Mag1c here, tho one would wonder why he’s going for Mikal instead of someone else, eg you or me.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 02/09/2026 at 13:32 (post #1022)

Pie thinks you are ss bad as kohai. He'll would freeze over before he picks you when he already had kohai.

You realise. If I am scum and you are Town. You are getting snowed so hard by Pie right now that you’ll feel silly ooking back? Why are you not even considering this lol

Originally Posted by wylted on 02/09/2026 at 13:28 (post #1017)

I want to know what everyone wants to do if their target flips innocent

IDK man. I only have Mikal seriously considered rn and not even that strongly lol

It’s strange having to argue I could be scum but it is what it is I guess

Originally Posted by Mikal on 02/09/2026 at 13:21 (post #1015)

Again paraphrasing this

Pie thinks mago is shit. He would not pick him

Wylted and luna wanted mago - as scum i go mago

Wylted would have an easier time going mago as scum and getting a lynch there or going luna with me now instead of going to magic again

Voting patterns don't make sense.

About to drive wykted lmk where you want to start so I can park. Mago can pick between that and me. Don't want to have our vote split

Maybe he would pick me because of this exact reason tho. You realise that Pie probably thought of all this and realised if he didn’t play any mind games and ppl just went for the super obvious shit he would lose right?

Originally Posted by wylted on 02/09/2026 at 13:20 (post #1014)

Lowkey didn't even see you say you were roleblocked ever lol somehow missed that

Can you tell me exactly how him stating he is role blocked a mind game with scum when they would already know if they roleblocked him or not

I guess he meant that Town could’ve roleblocked him or something; if he didn’t know Scum had a roleblocker (which he wouldn’t), it would be a valid thought. Whether or not Mafia would pick up on it is a separate question

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 02/09/2026 at 13:13 (post #1010)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 9/2/2026 at 3:13 AM (post #1007)

Yeah, here it is: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=14866750#p14866750

Sounds closer to this:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Little%20Girl

Yeah this is probably where Banana got the role. I think Mag1c claimed to be a little girl IIRC

It’s probably totally worthless to ask who Pie would recruit. It’s just infinite WIFOM can’t derive any real info that way. For any question that arises, 3 more pop up.

I’ll start -

Scientist

Defense: 1

Offense: 0

Description: You are a genius hermit living on the outskirts of society. You perform all sorts of crazy experiments in your shack in the woods in hopes of discovering the secret of immortality.

Night Ability: Each night, you may create any of the following items:

a) Super-Rejuvenating Solution - Gives someone 10,000 defense value for one night. Can only craft one of these once per game; even if a role gives you extra charges, this will never have more than one charge, and it is full stop impossible for this to ever affect more than one player, ever, regardless of any other considerations.

b) Temporary Invisibility Generator - Makes a player invisible for one night and one day. They will become completely immune to all night actions, day actions, cannot vote, cannot be voted, and do not influence the voting threshold that day. In addition, they are removed from all night/day chats for the duration and can only speak to the host. One charge.

c) Quantum Entanglement Device - Entangles two players, ensuring that night actions that affect one will also affect the other. Can be used on self. One charge.

d) Neural Gas - Sprays neural gas at a player’s house. All targets there will be roleblocked, but will receive fake randomised feedback as though their abilities succeeded. One charge.

One Hundred Rolecards

The role list is as follows:

Town/Mafia/3p Any

Repeat to infinity.

Anyone may submit roles to this setup. The only rules are:

a) All roles should be able to work with any alignment.

b) Don’t submit anything you wouldn’t want used on yourself.

At the start of the game I randomly assign roles to players from this list. Every night people can choose to “reroll” instead of taking a night action; at the end of the night they will be given a different, random role from this list.

Owing to the difficulty of making an order of operations for this shit, the OoO will be randomised.

Basics

Town - Has majority at game start, typical shit

Mafia - Has a factional night kill along with their own abilities

3p - Can be Serial Killer, Survivor or Executioner

Yeah, here it is: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=14866750#p14866750

For what it's worth, I have heard of Mag1c’s role before, but I’ve never been in a game with it myself. I think it’s called an Eavesdropper.

I think it’s foolhardy to clear me because I wouldn’t be recruited. I honestly agree that I would never recruit myself, but 1) I am not scum and have my own perspective here, which isn’t the same as a scum perspective, 2) they have to play mind games with this Yakuza crap, and 3) I have two people saying I can’t be scum because I wouldn’t be recruited. Assume I’m scum for a second, this means the other two people are Town and will (probably) never vote me. With a mislynch on Luna I would basically be guaranteed to win, so the gambit on Pie’s end would've worked wonders.

I might be tempted to slap a vote on Mikal for this.

I have other thoughts. I do kind of like Mag1c’s post and analysis, and I like the idea that he’’s trying to narrow down teams and saying which teams are unlikely and which are probable (he’s been doing this since D2). On the other hand, his claim isn’t a direct CC to Mikal and if he’s scum he could easily argue “shitz my bad guys guess I was wrong about who it was on NP2”.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 02/09/2026 at 2:03 (post #952)

Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 5:22 PM (post #945)

Lunatic what are your thoughts?

I think magics role is real at the very least, could have been recruited though. I am not sure I am 100% on board with the logic of mikal being confirmed scum based on the words "ml" and a double space, however I do think mikal behaviorally is at least setting off some alarms. The fact that that message in magics pm clearly states that they need two mislynches to win, and mikal seems to have 2 people lined up for a lynch, exactly me and magic, and doesn't seem to consider you or mago options at all seems like TMI. I don't see how he could say that you guys are innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt when literally anyone could have been recruited. The fact that he is hard set on me and magic being scum makes it look like he is setting us up as both lynches. And he's throwing his weight around confidently, expecting you both to wagon him saying things like "I know wylted will vote with me" type shit just seems like is trying to manipulate you.

If I was leaning a direction it would be mikal, but I don't want to dismiss the possibility both him and magic are town here. I am literally considering everyone. I'll have more extensive thoughts when I get to work tonight.

"mikal seems to have 2 people lined up for a lynch, exactly me and magic, and doesn't seem to consider you or mago options at all seems like TMI. I don't see how he could say that you guys are innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt when literally anyone could have been recruited. The fact that he is hard set on me and magic being scum makes it look like he is setting us up as both lynches. And he's throwing his weight around confidently, expecting you both to wagon him saying things like "I know wylted will vote with me" type shit just seems like is trying to manipulate you."

I honestly thought so too. I didn’t like how Mikal was urging us to quick hammer right away. I think that’s in Mikal’s scum meta too

Originally Posted by wylted on 01/09/2026 at 20:38 (post #905)

I will catch up later and iso.

Mago definitely I think lied about his role and he needs to come clean though so it helps us solve, if he is town

I have not lied

Only 1 of us is scum (presumably). I know I’m not scum, so that just means it’s one of y’all. Question is who lol

Was nobody role blocked or redirected?

I asked Banana if a role like Mikal’s could be used by the person on themself 1) and if it’s still active at MyLo/LyLo.

Speaking of MyLo/LyLo, does Banana usually announce this? I don’t think we have a Tailor considering Lunatic claimed to have been role blocked--

Actually, I just had a thought. Why did Pie not use a Lawyer on himself?

I’m not sure what to think. I’ll be back later

Why the hell did anyone even speak in scum chat NP2?

??????

He flipped scum what do you want

RIP Thoth

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 20:46 (post #791)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/31/2026 at 1:34 PM (post #789)

Pie’s shit is not directed at me and looks insanely scummy if you were in my position. I gave him the opportunity to get away from today’s Lynch and he’s trying to take every single inch he can lol. When did I become this nigga’s top scum read? He also knows my Town/Scum meta and knows the difference between them yet is somehow saying I am now 100% scum.

What are you even talking about? Your scum meta is inactivity, which you were for all of DP1 until the last 3-4 hours when we were doing CFD.

And he’s saying it’s because of my role? If he was honest and actually didn’t believe my claim he would say I’m probably Town for it because I’ve faked roles SO OFTEN as Town, so what’s different here lol.

What are you even talking about?

So when was I evil then, DP1 or DP2?

Pie’s shit is not directed at me and looks insanely scummy if you were in my position. I gave him the opportunity to get away from today’s Lynch and he’s trying to take every single inch he can lol. When did I become this nigga’s top scum read? He also knows my Town/Scum meta and knows the difference between them yet is somehow saying I am now 100% scum.

And he’s saying it’s because of my role? If he was honest and actually didn’t believe my claim he would say I’m probably Town for it because I’ve faked roles SO OFTEN as Town, so what’s different here lol.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 19:52 (post #782)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/31/2026 at 12:38 PM (post #780)

Wonder if mago and pie are trying to distance. Due to pies lack of crash out. He prob is scum. Wagon should say a lot but him and mago feel like they are trying to distance

My strategy is common sense lol. Been trying to say it for so long now. Do you have any thoughts instead of just doing what Luna wants?

Like do you not see how mechanically Mago’s role doesn’t make sense for Banana to include. She’s not active 24/7 like half of us degenerates. Getting rid of both investigatives is clearly favorable to scum

Okay ILikePie5 is confirmed scum in my mind. You’re just straight up making shit up. now

Originally Posted by Mikal on 31/08/2026 at 19:38 (post #780)

Wonder if mago and pie are trying to distance. Due to pies lack of crash out. He prob is scum. Wagon should say a lot but him and mago feel like they are trying to distance

Not trying to distance. Also consider if Pie would have me Yakuza’d instead of someone else.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 18:27 (post #775)

Just weigh the Pros and Cons of it. Especially considering the likelihood of Mago being scum. If my name wasn’t Pie, would you really be lynching me here based on the strategy that I mentioned?

I don’t get this, why is the likelihood of me being scum especially high compared to anyone else here lol

I realise my role is odd but I can’t help it. Besides my bio does kinda match my role even if there’s no justification.

And since someone said this, I have not actually seen a role like this before. It’s not on the MafiaScum wiki either, I checked.