My guess is that Pie’s role is a very important one to the scum team or he wouldnt be fighting so hard to make it past today.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 15:42 (post #755)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 10:36 PM (post #739)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 5:34 (post #736)
Note that Mago went from I AM NOT CLAIMING to just claiming out of the blue. Sounds just like someone else we know: Kohai.
Cool, remember I told you painting me doesnt give you any town points.
You were the one who said pIE iSNt sCuMhUNtIng lol.
You’re so desperate lmao. You are so scum it hurts
I just confirmed with Banana Thoth wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between converted scum and original scum. Not that it makes any difference because nobody would convert Pie
I know I probably sound like a broken record at this point, but I honestly think Pie is just scum. There are moments where I have doubts and am afraid of some secret team laughing in the background while we’re all arguing like idiots, but then he says shit like the above
Also, why do you think I suddenly became this super ballsy player as scum to take risks like this? This doesnt seem like an actual thought you might have lol
Along another line of thought, I’m not a huge fan of how Lunatic and Mikal are dick riding each other so hard. Why do they trust each other that much lol
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 5:24 (post #730)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 10:11 PM (post #724)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 5:06 (post #723)
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/30/2026 at 9:00 PM (post #711)
o, I skimmed the wiki just now for Donna Baines and there’s nothing about voting or anything
You guys have to stop with this. You are trying to force characters to fit a game. You can say justification makes no sense but to think somebody from a TV show had to vote in that TV show for a mod to create a vote related role is silly
It’s more to prove his role is made up and his justification is made up. There has to be some semblance of connection. Otherwise just run a vanilla game
Why would I fake claim a random ass weird role like this unprompted though? You were most likely to be the lynch today until I claimed what I claimed.
Town cred? There’s a million WIFOM reasons.
The town cred of being the lynch? This sounds like something Kohai was thinking of when he used his role, he “confirmed” himself
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 5:22 (post #729)
”Pie voting me here initially confirms what I said. Town Pie wouldnt care for this stupud game anyways, he is 100% survival focused. And he gains basically nothing from this little experiment cause if hes Town scum will probably kill him because he will be confirned lol. He only has sth to gain as scum
But yea, him voting me proves its not what he said anyways, he wants to eliminate a strong role from play and wreak some havoc by making y’all’s votes anonymous”
Why is scum NKing Pie a bad thing? They're forced to kill me (an easy mislynch). Thoth gets another investigation off too.
This is literally a win win for us. Mago is flailing so hard right now.
You wanting to survive so bad and not even trying to scum hunt at all is my point. That’s scummy. I don’t think you would do this as Town.
all your hunting today just looks like you trying to accuse people of shit so they die in your stead
You know you don’t get town points for stating I’m flailing right? I’m literally agreeing to be lynched here
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 5:12 (post #725)
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/30/2026 at 9:02 PM (post #712)
Would banana who posts 5 times a game ever create a role that forces her to sort through 75 pms a day as mod?
I think she'd be a bit more pragmatic tbh now that I think about it. Can we afford a mislynch?
Thats also a good point. It would require her to be active a lot, which she isn’t.
It’s 5-2 right now, so technically yes. But I’m confident in Mago being OG scum. You and Thoth are off the board. Could be Mikal but Mag1c made a good point that it’s sorta like the candy that scum could’ve taken for their benefit. I townread Mag1c and continue to today. Luna isn’t OG cause he brought all that attention to Kohai yesterday, which doesn’t make sense.
That leaves Mago. The role doesn’t make much sense.
You should vote me btw or I will hammer myself at L-1 and everyone will lynch you anyways.
I mean y’all can argue all you want, I’m down to call Pie’s gambit here because it would be really funny if it blew up in his fafe and outed his partner lol
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 5:06 (post #723)
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/30/2026 at 9:00 PM (post #711)
o, I skimmed the wiki just now for Donna Baines and there’s nothing about voting or anything
You guys have to stop with this. You are trying to force characters to fit a game. You can say justification makes no sense but to think somebody from a TV show had to vote in that TV show for a mod to create a vote related role is silly
It’s more to prove his role is made up and his justification is made up. There has to be some semblance of connection. Otherwise just run a vanilla game
Why would I fake claim a random ass weird role like this unprompted though? You were most likely to be the lynch today until I claimed what I claimed.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 3:08 (post #704)
Also, I skimmed the wiki just now for Donna Baines and there’s nothing about voting or anything
Yes, like I said i literally do not have a justification. It’s kind of a reach what Banana did. I told her as much, and she disagreed, but here we are.
Pie voting me here initially confirms what I said. Town Pie wouldnt care for this stupud game anyways, he is 100% survival focused. And he gains basically nothing from this little experiment cause if hes Town scum will probably kill him because he will be confirned lol. He only has sth to gain as scum
But yea, him voting me proves its not what he said anyways, he wants to eliminate a strong role from play and wreak some havoc by making y’all’s votes anonymous
Ya know what? Ima call Pies bluff. Get me up to L-1 and see whos afraid to hammer. Pie has to be voting me, he will try to sabotage by being the hammer voter which effectively just waste today by giving us info which is 99% already known to be a fact
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 2:19 (post #682)
Here’s an idea:
Let me confirm myself today with Mago’s role. I’ll hammer today. If votes are anonymous tomorrow instalynch me.
Upside is that you’re guaranteed results. Mago is still likely to be OG scum or a convert. His odds of either/or are higher than anyone else. Idt he’s even stated what his role is called yet.
Pie just manufacturing reads. When did I become most likely person to be scum?
Also, why would anyone convert me? Do you really think scum would convert me knowing my scum game.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 31/08/2026 at 3:04 (post #703)
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/30/2026 at 7:50 PM (post #687)
Let me confirm myself today with Mago’s role. I’ll hammer today. If votes are anonymous tomorrow instalynch me.
I'm open to it. How does his role work again? Or can you link me to the post?
Yes. He stated that if scum hammer or NK him, then the vote tomorrow will be anonymous (ie we will all have to submit votes to Banana).
He didn’t state the name of the role. I’ve never heard of this role.
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/83/from-mafia---day-2?commentId=6a934a18ed2d92476e465ab3
Here’s the post.
I said LEADER. I’m sorry Banana chose to make up crazy role cards that are hard to parse for the average person. It’s just title case “LEADER” above “Donna Raines”.
Finding the last Mafia is gonna be wild.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 30/08/2026 at 17:23 (post #613)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 10:17 AM (post #612)
I was speaking hypothetically, setup spec. It’s not a balanced setup because scum can disable two of the town’s investigative roles and they have a Yakuza on top of everything.
If you want to resort to balance arguments, go for it cause this is Banana’s second game. First game she got Mag1c to help her. I don’t think she got anyone this time. But just having a Framer and a Yakuza is not OP for scum against a Watcher, Cop, and Doctor in any scenario
I don’t think she would do this. I do pretty crazy setups with deception and shit and even I would think twice about doing this unless it was a dedicated setup and I warned ppl in advance things could get hairy which she didn’t say lol
I mean not alienating people is one thing but why do you not even suspect Luna/Thoth as evils lol
I was speaking hypothetically, setup spec. It’s not a balanced setup because scum can disable two of the town’s investigative roles and they have a Yakuza on top of everything.
Also no, common sense says you’re scum, you’re acting like defeated scum and your response to Lunatic/Thoth indicates you’re not even scumreading them which is very strange for someone who’s been scumread the whole game.
And honestly that’s ignoring everything else I said about you which you didn’t even address
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 30/08/2026 at 16:59 (post #607)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 9:52 AM (post #605)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 30/08/2026 at 16:44 (post #603)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 1:14 AM (post #579)
Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.
I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.
I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.
VTL: ILikePie5
I was the obvious frame target lol. Retarded selection on your part. Wryly, I get cause she’s a noob, but you’ve played forever. You never investigate the scummiest person.
So scum has a Yakuza AND a Framer? And town has a Miller? I don’t believe any of this shit there’s no way anyone does
Town has a Watcher, Cop, Doctor. That combo is brutal. And scum always have a counter to a Cop. Always, whether it’s GF, Lawyer, or Framer. Common sense is to frame me
What if they take the Watcher out by converting him. Then all Town investigates become useless because Watcher can find power roles like the Doctor and shit and Framer frames ppl 24/7. This is not balanced lol
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 30/08/2026 at 16:44 (post #603)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 1:14 AM (post #579)
Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.
I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.
I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.
VTL: ILikePie5
I was the obvious frame target lol. Retarded selection on your part. Wryly, I get cause she’s a noob, but you’ve played forever. You never investigate the scummiest person.
So scum has a Yakuza AND a Framer? And town has a Miller? I don’t believe any of this shit there’s no way anyone does
Feels kinda sad knowing the entire original scum will be dead by EoD2, and yet some poor nigga is scum now and coulda won with us lol
Originally Posted by Thoth on 30/08/2026 at 3:52 (post #568)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #567)
Okay, that means he was telling the truth about having a confirmable role, which explains the NK.
You're waiting for me to answer your question and then agreeing with me about this very obvious game fact, as though I am the authority on how Mafia works? This is so out-of-character for you that it's painful.
I don’t think this is staged. I can’t see Thoth as scum lol