Magoroth

Literally the only possibilities I see are Pie, Rex and Shining.

Lunatic is a possibility but he’s not super scummy

Pre-determined

if I was Caroler I would’ve claimed by now bruh

but women aren’t supposed to leave the kitchen, so if you stay out of the kitchen she won’t be able to throw dishes at you

VTL Pie

I haven’t the faintest why the fuck a Town Caroler wouldn’t claim, but I am down to lynch Pie.

I don’t know the other roles. I get a new role every night

Is there anything in particular you want to discuss?

The notion of a scum claiming a Carol when it’s easily disprovable strains belief. I think it’s significantly easier to believe Caroller is scum. No idea why anyone thinks Wryly is faking Carol. She’s obviously surprised nobody is owning up to it

yeah. that makes sense, what doesn’t make sense is why they wouldn’t just straight up claim 3P? it’s weird.

I’ve revealed everything nigga

also Rex picking up on the Wylted thing immediately and being the first to mention it kinda makes sense if he’s the one who Carolled Wryly lmao

it’s a logical leap but the idea is that you interact with those you had secret interactions with, because they’re on your mind

Because if you’re Town, the only reasonable possibility is that the Caroler is scum and isn’t claiming.

There’s another possibility that the Caroler is Town and lying for some reason, but that reeks of game throwing to me and I don’t buy it

Tbh I think it’s probably Rex

There’s another possibility. Caroler is scum and didn’t claim because their fake claim doesn’t match Caroler at all

Lunatic’s reaction doesn’t strike me as someone informed of a Caroler, so I don’t think he’s the Caroler. Pie doesn’t look super informed as to the existence of a Caroler either, which makes me think that he might not be scum.

I think Rex is the only one who hasn’t actually weighed in on the Caroler claim?

I don’t really believe this. In order to believe that Wryly is scum, I’d have to believe that her scum partner, presumably a player with some experience, would just bail out on her. Has Wryly ever been scum? It’d be a very scummy tactic to pull off, which would on top of everything also be dumb because it would Lynch one scum with 0 benefit. It doesn’t make any sense. I think it’s simpler to just believe the Caroler is either scum or for some reason not claiming (?)

True.

not really

"If there is a third-party, their character would be town according to the theme split, their win condition is only to survive until the end of the game, they count as town for scum parity, and they have been given a role fake-claim."

I assume you’re telling the truth about this since it’d be weird to lie about public information like that. It still feels weird though

But

VTL RexFavilla

for now

I don’t think he needs behavioural reasons when he can just point to “hey Kohai isn’t claiming let’s Lynch him”, though. It’s an easy thing to push. It doesn’t even get him overly scumread just because everyone “agrees” Kohai should’ve claimed, it literally gets him off the hook Scott-free while he gets away with a Town mislynch.

And yeah, the Caroler situation is odd, I would like to hear more from Wryly even though I find it hard to believe Wryly would fake claim a carol, of all things, as scum, like I could see her claiming that if her scum buddy was gonna claim Caroler, but they haven’t? I guess it could happen if there was some serious miscommunication issues in scum chat

someone here is 100% lying lol

It’s more like he wants to use it as a “backup” for his argument, but it doesn’t match him at all

but that’s my point. why would he draw attention to the fact that “everyone thinks you’re wrong” lol

Like this “Everyone thinks you’re wrong"

since when does Pie care about what “everyone” thinks???

The thing is, Pie plays aggressively as scum and gets away with it, last game when he was scum in Rex’s game he pushed me consistently and scumread me when nobody else was, and it just so happens this matches a scum motivation, and it doesn’t make sense as a town strategy to try to get a claim out of a player right out the gate. That and it happens to be a dick move, and I dont think Pie is a dick so I think he’s just scum

I didn’t hear an explanation all I heard was a bunch of wah wah he didn’t wanna claim and it’s not my fault

Yeah you're right that it's unlikely.

Idk, gun to the head my thought is that it's Shining

Yes, it wasn't Kohai's fault beause you don't fucking put someone at L-2 THREE HOURS INTO DAY START. I don't care that I sound like a broken record, we don't have an automated vote counter + early on it's VERY easy to get people to accidentally vote someone, and even if you don't, wtf is the point of getting someone to hardclaim 3 HOURS into the day, when there's ZERO information and you may be outing an important Town role? Which, gee, guess what, turns out to be the case!

I don't believe this. You must be scum. This is literally you from RexFavilla's game. Utterly convinced of stuff like you were that game. You