I explained why.
I think I may be voting Shining regardless, but it is possible for both scum to be in fact in [Kohai, Whiteflame, Mag1cman].
I don’t think it’s Kohai.
That leaves you and Mag1cman.
I guess I’m willing to lynch [Shining, Mag1cman] and Whiteflame as a last resort, but would rather lynch Mag1cman over Whiteflame
Is that really all you have to say?
I almost voted you for that.
Okay Mag1cman you’re pissing me off now. WHAT INSISTENCE?
I’ve literally been truthful all day, I told you my results and I’ve been YELLING THAT I DON’T KNOW if my results are accurate or not, I’m not fucking pivoting, would you SHUT UP about it?
If you’re Town you really, really need to at least CONSIDER the possibility that I’m Town and telling the truth. WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE SHIT I’M SAYING.
And if you’re gonna say “but scum does this”, no my play does nothing except potentially get me lynched today or tomorrow. it’s a terrible play.
I could literally just vote Shining and regardless of his alignment I would get away with it.
I don’t think a hidden miller is possible. So I think there 100% is at least one scum in [Kohai, Whiteflame, Mag1cman].
My results IMPLY there is a scum in the other group, but I don’t know that for a fact. It is entirely possible both scum were on the first lynch day 1, not sure how likely it is but it’s possible.
Hmm thinking bout it further it’s more likely they split their votes.
okay shining and what is your point?
what is the motivation of his fake claim as scum?
I think lynching in Kohai, Mag1cman, Whiteflame is a SIGNIFICANTLY better idea. Godfather is possible, Miller almost certainly isn’t.
Unvote
How the hell does my character show ANYTHING with regards to my role?
VTL Shining
That is 100% the best play for them, hands down.
I’m just giving them a warning.
It would be ideal for us if they shot in the PoE.
Since it doesn’t confirm me, but they have a shot at mislynching me tomorrow. It would actually be better for us AND for them, it’s risky but it can win them the game.
Because if you believe me, their ONLY choice is killing me.
By the way scum you will have to shoot in the other group because if you narrow the PoE I’m going to do everything in my power to lynch the scum, you will not be able to mislynch me or convince people to do it. I will fight tooth and nail and you will not win that fight.
If we kill in [Kohai, Mag1cman, Whiteflame], scum will just shoot in the other group, btw.
Same goes for the other group.
Aren’t we going to use Thoth’s ability and no-lynch today regardless?
Unvote
Quoting my posts and trying to imply shit isn’t going to do anything.
I was barely active that game. It was an unusual game for me.
And? Your reaction is over the top :smile: you are angry the town you are scumshading and painting is fighting back against you and calling you scum. “If I get lynched over this muddafuka I’ll be mad!"
Town OMGUSes but they don’t get this angry. This is fake scum anger. “How dare you accuse ME when you did the same thing?!?!!!11one!
Wow, the OMGUS is strong with this one. You can’t handle being accused without getting mad, can you?
VTL Mag1cman
Ah... ok. What made you decide to fake claim
Why did you say your role was listed under Occasionally when dayvig isn’t?
I think I townread Kohai and Wryly, and weaker townreads on Whiteflame and Thoth.
So that leaves [Mag1cman, Shining] as the team. But is it that simple?
Hm actually what kind of a breadcrumb is this? Why would you basically state you aren’t a Dayvig by saying your role is “Occasionally”?
I actually townread his insistence on using the Governor role, btw.
"Uh... Right. Fuck. This crazy gambit of his really blew up my POEs. I had a solidish town lean on Thoth, that's gone. He's just been too cagey, reckless, and deceitful this DP. Whatever scumhunting he was trying to do came at the cost of his credibility and town's efficiency imo.
A dayvig really would've helped me narrow down the POE by eliminating him from suspicion. Governor does nothing. He could easily be scum straight claiming Governor, so even if he confirms his role this DP we've gotten no further.
Where the hell do I even go from here.
If Thoth is scum, I know his partner can only be Magoroth or Kohai.
If Thoth is not scum, then scum are popping champagne and celebrating right now because Thoth has distracted town from their trail very well with this play."
I townread this from Wryly but also disagree with it. I don’t understand what’s bad about Thoth’s play? It might be annoying but I don’t see it as genuinely anti-town.
BY THE WAY. I was considering gambiting by fake-claiming Vigilante (I do it a lot) and saying I would shoot someone, but I’m not going to do it anymore after a townie already gambited.
Thoth, did you seed/breadcrumb anywhere that you were gambiting?
Miller is 100% not in the setup, unless it’s not Kohai.
Yes, I know Hated and Miller are separate roles, but to me Hated kinda thematically fits with a Miller role. You hate someone so much you think they’re scum.
Obviously, a Hated with a hidden Miller modifier is ridiculously anti-town, to the point where I don’t think that role can exist.
Low hanging fruit. A townie that is easy to push/mislynch/scumread by many players.
I mean that there could be Millers or Godfathers who could affect my results. It would technically mean my role to my knowledge is legit except some other roles interfere with my results
"When Wylted shows up (if?) we may need to get a claim out of him."
A lot of Mag1cman’s early D1 stuff is very noncommittal. Doesn’t really want to be seen as pointing fingers, except at me, the popular LHF.
Yeah, Mag1c and Shining are high on my list, too.
Whiteflame seems townier than I gave him credit for.
He gives thoughts which are a little hard to fake as scum although not impossible. “I want to townread Thoth because I usually townread [...], but that’s bias, not a read”. Not an impossible thought to fake as scum but it’s somewhat towny
I don’t get how I’ve been weird about my role and I’m actually getting pretty frustrated with this accusation. Do you expect me to 100% trust information I get without questioning it?
Is it just because I said the host told me “100% accurate results”? Why would I trust anything other than 100% hard clears - as in, “your target is 100% scum and this result is GUARANTEED never to fire on a Town”, or behavioural tells, when mechanical information can be deliberately MISLEADING in a closed game?
100% accurate is an odd way of phrasing it - the host confirmed Godfather and Miller would affect my results, btw. Just that I am immune to being manipulated.
