There’s nothing AI, Shining, about Thoth’s gambit or even his retraction. It’s neither Town nor Scum, both alignments would retract under the circumstances Thoth found himself in.
Thoth, were you looking for something specific? Did you find any telling information from your gambit?
Why no lynch?
Can you post your flavour paraphrased?
Is there anything that hints at people thinking you’re Mafia?
On the other hand Matt Eberflus never actually interacted with Cody Parkey in any relevant way as far as I can tell.
So maybe I’m just reading too much into it.
Hated does imply a kind of Miller.
I wonder if that’s a slip from Mag1cman, Godfather who is immune to detection and would know Matt Eberflus (Kohai) is most probably Miller.
Since Kohai never actually said he’s a Miller.
Can we get full character claims? From everyone in [Kohai, Mag1cman, Whiteflame]?
In 2019, I missed a kick that woulda won the game from 43 yards. I hit it off the left and right crossbar (?).
I am also specifically told this is something I was known for doing a lot that season.
If the flavour is meaningful in any way, it kinda does imply I can see certain Mafia as Town or Town as Mafia.
Can everyone take a look at their character claims and verify if maybe the flavour hints at some part of their role that is hidden to them?
Kohai, I am sure you would’ve claimed it by now, but you are 100% not a Miller or something, correct?
Actually, are we allowed to dump our character claims verbatim? I assume we aren’t?
Also @Shining from what you say if anything Thoth looks like Town to me. I could see a Town AFKing after stating a sure scumread on someone. maybe he was afraid he was wrong and that’s why he didn’t go into details.
and the inconsistency you mention, I actually find town indicative. usually town are more inconsistent. I’m less inconsistent as scum personally.
I am thinking that my role probably IS useful, as it can detect actual information, but it probably sees either one Mafia as Town or one Town as Mafia, but not both.
meaning, I believe that it’s possible for there to be two scum in [Kohai, Mag1cman, Whiteflame], although I’m unsure how likely it is.
Wryly’s comment about me being lynched could imply the scum are actually in [Wryly, Thoth, Shining].
A part of me wants to lynch Wryly, because in what world does a Town say “we should lynch you to verify if your PoE is legit” when that PoE may not even be 1) legit and 2) is incredibly weak, and actually useless in MyLo. It’s a way to drive a mislynch on a Town.
I could see 1) being a legitimate thought coming from a Town, but not 2).
no, I OMGUS you because you almost say I’m 100% confirmed scum and the reasons you give are B.S. “he’s fake"
literally anyone can say anyone else is fake so this reason is bullshit. you gotta give a significantly better reason than that or I’m gonna deathtunnel you.
anyone can say anyone else is fake, it’s a subjective thing which you can’t explain which is great cover if you’re scum and it makes it look like you’re scum hunting. so give an actual reason why I’m scum, or begone.
what is the purpose of me claiming what I claimed?
besides, why can I not be Town who acts fake?
okay... so apparently Miller would add +1 to the vote count if a Miller exists.
nobody in [Kohai, Mag1cman, etc] has claimed Miller so I assume Miller doesn’t exist. I will treat any Miller claim as a scum claim because Miller should IMMEDIATELY claim. Not claiming as Miller when you are one is stupid, it’s ridiculously anti-Town because it gives scum basically the possibility to fake claim whatever they want and get away with it.
only possibility is if there’s a Miller that doesn’t know they’re a Miller, and idk if that’s possible.
this is what I meant about my role not being reliable. I have no idea why people assume I have to trust mechanical information in a setup where we don’t know anything about the roles.
Yes, and your reasons were bs from my point of view. You’re calling me fake when I know I’m not being fake.
You can’t call someone fake without them attacking you when they know they aren’t being fake.
You’re overexplaining here, “not outing your reason for a read is stupid and one of my pet peeves"
Why the need to say this?
You can doubt my claim, but you haven’t explained shit why I’m scummy. You just said I’m scummy and my play reeks of scum or something even though I’m 100% legit. Explain yourself.
I’m not a fan of random people yelling I’m scum without explanation. Wend did that last game and he flipped Serial Killer.
You realise if I’m lynched my info is of very little help to you, especially in MyLo, right?
You have to pick between two sets of players that contain one scum, and you have a 33% chance of picking incorrectly, if you do it purely randomly. So why did you say my death is beneficial of you in any shape or form?
I do agree with you Thoth should explain his scum read on Whiteflame, but I don’t understand why you’re so aggressive towards him about this.
VTL Mag1cman
shining, what is your opinion on the people here?
actually never mind I read your whole post
why does it boil down to whether or not you trust me?
my PoEs are useful but they aren’t like, game-winning or something. it’s just useful information and obviously scum hunting is still necessary, I don’t have a hard red check
On second thought, my information is more useful than I thought. It confirms that there is 100% distancing, theatre or teaming between someone in [Kohai, Mag1cman, Whiteflame] and [Thoth, Shining, Wryly].
The corollary to that is there’s also exactly one in scum in [Thoth, Wryly, Shining].
I don’t understand what PoE Wryly gets if I’m lynched. What PoE?
[Kohai, Magic, Whiteflame] is a shitty PoE, it doesn’t even contain both scum and if I’m lynched, it’s MyLo tomorrow, which renders my information useless.
It is already borderline useless unless we lynch the scum in [Kohai, Magic, Whiteflame].
By the way, if I understand the latest communication with the host correctly, he is telling me my results cannot be manipulated by Miller/Godfather (and Millers would’ve claimed already).
So there 100% is exactly one, and only one, scum in [Kohai, Magic, Whiteflame].
Lol, no thanks. Nobody can even explain why I have to be scum. Just because my claim is unlikely or I’m insisting that my results may not even be reliable?
Why would I even say this shit as scum?
Why would I claim an investigative role, when I wasn’t even in danger of being lynched when I made my claim, there’s a dead Tracker, and potential for other investigatives?
Why would I shade my own results? What do I have to gain from doing so?
Why would I make up this shit as scum?
Why would I even claim this role with an outed Tracker?
I’m not scummy. I just don’t want to put trust into mechanical information like that. I don’t want to blindly follow it when it’s possible it might not even be true.
It’s healthy to have a normal level of doubt in mechanical information, since it is possible the information may be misleading. In particular “Results you get are 100% guaranteed to be accurate”... I just feel like the wording is a bit off.
I’m not saying my info isn’t accurate, it probably is, but it’s not 100%
Idk.
I guess it’s probably reliable because why put my role in the game and make it one-shot if it’s affectable by scum?
